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England v India - 1st Test, Lords

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Why have they declared with 2 balls of the over left? Could have just told Pietersen to swing from the hip as them balls have just been lost now.
 

The Breen Machine said:
If England were to go with 5 bowlers, I'd be tempted to bat Bresnan at 7, he's got a very sound technique and has scored hundreds for Yorkshire, unless of course they go with 2 spinners in the sub-continent in which case I think Patel might be worth considering. On the other hand, I'm not sure Bresnan is an ODI number 7 as he's got quite a classical technique and takes a while to get himself in, the problem England have there though is that Broad and Swann's ODI batting has been poor.
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I think they will go 2 spinners in the winter, and I said a while back it would be Patel.

The problem the lower order lads have in ODIs is they rarely get a bat, so when they need to be called upon, they are not in any form to do so.
 
Magnificent knock that. Patient, tempered, and sage for the first 100 then a clinical next ton with no little elan.

Wish he would play like that more often
 
Andy.SAFC said:
I think they will go 2 spinners in the winter, and I said a while back it would be Patel.

The problem the lower order lads have in ODIs is they rarely get a bat, so when they need to be called upon, they are not in any form to do so.
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That's true and I suppose that isn't their fault really, just frustrating when you see Broad and Swann hit test match fifties and then struggle to get out of double figures in ODI's.

I can't see who else they will go for other than Patel, picking Tredwell will mean they have 2 off-spinners in the side and Panesar can't bat so will leave them with a potentially long tail. They will go for Patel for his batting prowess, he could be an ideal number 7 as he can score runs quickly when needed. I had been concerned about the potency of his bowling but he's taken 9 wickets in Notts' match with Hants so far although to be fair The Rose Bowl should be renamed the Dust Bowl :lol:
 
What makes it even better is looking at the wagon wheel, the runs were all round the ground.

And this stat from the bbc text commentary:
25 balls for that fourth 50 in the 200, after the first 50 had taken 134
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He played the situation perfectly.
 
The Breen Machine said:
That's true and I suppose that isn't their fault really, just frustrating when you see Broad and Swann hit test match fifties and then struggle to get out of double figures in ODI's.

I can't see who else they will go for other than Patel, picking Tredwell will mean they have 2 off-spinners in the side and Panesar can't bat so will leave them with a potentially long tail. They will go for Patel for his batting prowess, he could be an ideal number 7 as he can score runs quickly when needed. I had been concerned about the potency of his bowling but he's taken 9 wickets in Notts' match with Hants so far although to be fair The Rose Bowl should be renamed the Dust Bowl :lol:
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I'd imagine pretty similar to what the pitches in the sub-continent (is it Sri Lanka and Pakistan in UAE?) will be like. There's also Rashid, but I just cant see him getting picked. So Patel has gone from being too fat, to being the only other option. Looks like we might struggle if Swann gets injured any time soon.
 
mikemanc said:
I'm only 31!! :evil:

Kumar looks a bit of a character, thought he looked useful in the IPL but I didn't think he'd get in the test team so quickly.
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Was nice to see someone know their limitations and bowl accordingly, if you compare Kumar and Sharma's approach in that innings there is a massive contrast, Sharma trying to bowl too quick at times, spraying it well wide of off stump, and Kumar knowing his pace, bowling a tight line and using the seam skillfully.
 
Andy.SAFC said:
I'd imagine pretty similar to what the pitches in the sub-continent (is it Sri Lanka and Pakistan in UAE?) will be like. There's also Rashid, but I just cant see him getting picked. So Patel has gone from being too fat, to being the only other option. Looks like we might struggle if Swann gets injured any time soon.
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There's a good chance they will be, just with less in it for seamers. I would like to see Rashid get picked as he's got the lot but he seems to have fallen out of favour for some reason and Patel is the man in their thoughts. Briggs at Hampshire is an interesting prospect, capable of tight spells and picking up wickets and I'm very excited by Borthwick but he's not ready yet. If Swann were to get injured I think Tredwell would replace him as an almost like-for-like swap and while he isn't in the class of Swann, I don't think he's a bad as some people make out.
 
I know it will get praised as an attacking move, but it is really a good idea to declare when Pietersen is batting at his absolute best and smashing it to every corner of the ground?

These 'tricky little 20 minute teasers' at the end of a session are overrated imo and rarely produce a wicket.

With India's batting line up it's a safe bet England will have to bat again to win this test with a total of 470, but an extra 30 minutes of Pietersen batting like that could've added a lot of extra runs.

Of course he could've got out next ball anyway, but then you declare...
 
Hulkster said:
I know it will get praised as an attacking move, but it is really a good idea to declare when Pietersen is batting at his absolute best and smashing it to every corner of the ground?

These 'tricky little 20 minute teasers' at the end of a session are overrated imo and rarely produce a wicket.

With India's batting line up it's a safe bet England will have to bat again to win this test with a total of 470, but an extra 30 minutes of Pietersen batting like that could've added a lot of extra runs.

Of course he could've got out next ball anyway, but then you declare...
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Completely agree with that like. The follow on is only about 270, and on this pitch with this batting line up that doesn't seem anywhere near enough.

Pietersen could've easily given us well over 500 if he'd stayed in for another few overs. These tricky overs before the close are usually complete anti-climaxes.
 
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