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Zen Den

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A place for us (or just me) to report any bad examples of snidey clickbait, reporting on other people’s journalism, or any other disingenuous or two-bob writing from Copley and Paste et al.

Posting links will just add clicks so not gonna give it the oxygen, but good Echo reporting is also welcome of course.

Today, Copley has a story reporting on two pieces of journalism carried out by someone else (one of them’s even a real journalist):

Miguel Delaney’s story in the Independent about Bayern behind after Brobbey

Teamtalk’s scoop that some clubs might be after Sadiki

If Sunderland news happens anyway, anytime, the Echo will be the first to report on the first to report it.
 

pablo casals said:
its just how modern 'journalism' works since the onset of t'internet

we all miss getting one back page a day on SAFC from Geoff Storey and the local cricket and footy on the inside pages

i wouldnt let it bother you
unless youre actually paying them money for it
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I know marra, and in the grand scheme of things there’s worse going on in the world, so it only bothers me up to a point (enough to start a thread about it haha)

I do though think it’s wrong to be hoodwinking fellow supporters - especially older ones who aren’t necessarily internet-savvy - all to make a dishonest buck.
 
Zen Den said:
A place for us (or just me) to report any bad examples of snidey clickbait, reporting on other people’s journalism, or any other disingenuous or two-bob writing from Copley and Paste et al.

Posting links will just add clicks so not gonna give it the oxygen, but good Echo reporting is also welcome of course.

Today, Copley has a story reporting on two pieces of journalism carried out by someone else (one of them’s even a real journalist):

Miguel Delaney’s story in the Independent about Bayern behind after Brobbey

Teamtalk’s scoop that some clubs might be after Sadiki

If Sunderland news happens anyway, anytime, the Echo will be the first to report on the first to report it.
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Copley by no means the only culprit generally but agree it’s a terrible modern practice.
 
Zen Den said:
A place for us (or just me) to report any bad examples of snidey clickbait, reporting on other people’s journalism, or any other disingenuous or two-bob writing from Copley and Paste et al.

Posting links will just add clicks so not gonna give it the oxygen, but good Echo reporting is also welcome of course.

Today, Copley has a story reporting on two pieces of journalism carried out by someone else (one of them’s even a real journalist):

Miguel Delaney’s story in the Independent about Bayern behind after Brobbey

Teamtalk’s scoop that some clubs might be after Sadiki

If Sunderland news happens anyway, anytime, the Echo will be the first to report on the first to report it.
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So What? Copleys a lads fan like us, jumps onto other Journos stories but shares his own thoughts - He works the echo not a national so wont have many contacts out of the Sunderland bubble..Have a watch of his podcasts he does with a few just talking football - what a sad thread to post
 
Houghtoner said:
Copley by no means the only culprit generally but agree it’s a terrible modern practice.
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I agree, it’s a systemic problem, but I always return to the view that in a free society like ours if you voluntarily stick your name on a piece of writing then you’re complicit and there to be critiqued.
Weststand said:
So What? Copleys a lads fan like us, jumps onto other Journos stories but shares his own thoughts - He works the echo not a national so wont have many contacts out of the Sunderland bubble..Have a watch of his podcasts he does with a few just talking football - what a sad thread to post
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Supports us yet tries to mislead us and piggybacks on the work of others instead. Anyone can go on a podcast and waffle on. This is supposed to be journalism.

We whinge about plenty sad things on here but journalistic standards should not one of them unless we’re proper idiots.
 
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Weststand said:
So What? Copleys a lads fan like us, jumps onto other Journos stories but shares his own thoughts - He works the echo not a national so wont have many contacts out of the Sunderland bubble..Have a watch of his podcasts he does with a few just talking football - what a sad thread to post
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Does a really good podcast with a lad called Jason (another reporter - can’t remember his name) reviewing our games.
Phil Smith’s On the Whistle podcast also very good
 
Zen Den said:
I agree, it’s a systemic problem, but I always return to the view that in a free society like ours if you voluntarily stick your name on a piece of writing then you’re complicit and there to be critiqued.

Supports us yet tries to mislead us and piggybacks on the work of others instead. Anyone can go on a podcast and waffle on. This is supposed to be journalism.

We whinge about plenty sad things on here but journalistic standards should not one of them unless we’re proper idiots.
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Whos bothered? What is there to whinge about Copley?? You know your not going to get a groundbreaking story but a point of view - nowt wrong with the lad

Whats he misleading us about like?
 
Rokeroar said:
Does a really good podcast with a lad called Jason (another reporter - can’t remember his name) reviewing our games.
Phil Smith’s On the Whistle podcast also very good
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Love Phil Smith; Jason Jones is another one who, if you judge him on the output, is a hack, shill, low-level huckster … take your pick.
BingoBango said:
Ugh. This is very maggish.
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How so?
Weststand said:
Whos bothered? What is there to whinge about Copley?? You know your not going to get a groundbreaking story but a point of view - nowt wrong with the lad

Whats he misleading us about like?
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Point of view? Almost all of his articles are clickbait or reporting what some internet slop website has rumoured.
 
Zen Den said:
Love Phil Smith; Jason Jones is another one who, if you judge him on the output, is a hack, shill, low-level huckster … take your pick.

How so?

Point of view? Almost all of his articles are clickbait or reporting what some internet slop website has rumoured.
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Snidey clickbait man - you and yr mate have a word with yourselves
 
Weststand said:
So What? Copleys a lads fan like us, jumps onto other Journos stories but shares his own thoughts - He works the echo not a national so wont have many contacts out of the Sunderland bubble..Have a watch of his podcasts he does with a few just talking football - what a sad thread to post
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Well said. Copley is a good egg all told. I think this whole thread is a complete misunderstanding of national vs local sports journalism...
 
If every news source had to be an exclusive, you'd find out nothing.

Go onto the echo website to find out news but they can't report who we've signed cos that is already broken elsewhere.
 
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