Mackem Tommy
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Exactly the kind of player we need in there.
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Dylan McGeouch
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Perryqhill
Striker
There's a common thought that we desperately need pace in the side and I wouldn't disagree. However the speed at which we think and move the ball is so laboured and absolutely chronic in terms of how we play and the lack of running off the ball making runs to hit shows our intentions are not to attack with pace and intensity anyway, until we go a goal down and then we have to change mentality.
Ipswich have what is seen to be a dour negative manager as well and I don't think they have that much quality, but yesterday they were playing two balls on counters and the third would be a shot or a cross. Meanwhile we pass and pass and then get caught in possession or it just fizzles out. I don't expect us to play like Man City but we need to be a bit more direct and be more positive in terms of getting men and the ball forward at times.
I think whats worse than the initial post, the shit content, the abysmal information and the lack of understanding of his position and role within the team.
Its that 6 people liked the post and agreed with the content.
Its that 6 people liked the post and agreed with the content.
Perryqhill
Striker
Then passes back to a centre half / fullback who launches it?
I have no problem with the concept of keeping possession, keeping the ball moving etc, but if like McGeouch you never take responsibility and leave it to others in more defensive positions then you're taking the easy way out. He divides opinion because he looks as if he might have the ability to do more, but he just isn't and hasn't done it here. Apart from reading the game quite well, he's slow, not that strong on the ball and adds nothing positive. When you have issues in terms of advancing up the field and there's a player in the centre of the midfield like him not taking control of the midfield at all then it stands out.
Dexter
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While I don’t agree with everything the OP says, I’ve never seen so many people try to claim to have superior football knowledge because they rate Dylan f***ing McGeouch.
He had a good game last week fair enough, but even if his role isn’t to create goals, it’s still pretty shit to have a slow weak footballer in the middle of the pitch who for the vast majority of his time here has contributed nothing to the football club.
If he can play like he did against Oxford then he definitely has a role to play for us, but until he does it consistently then he’s just another League 1 plodder.
He had a good game last week fair enough, but even if his role isn’t to create goals, it’s still pretty shit to have a slow weak footballer in the middle of the pitch who for the vast majority of his time here has contributed nothing to the football club.
If he can play like he did against Oxford then he definitely has a role to play for us, but until he does it consistently then he’s just another League 1 plodder.
Laidback Jack
Striker
The OP is way off but I do agree he's overrated. I keep hearing 'he's a top player' and i've yet to see it. Very impressive at keeping things ticking over and play a lot of nice short neat passes - but sometimes that's not enough.
I appreciate his game isn't tearing into tackles or scoring goals but the odd forward pass into a a good position or taking a risk on the ball now and again wouldn't go a miss.
I appreciate his game isn't tearing into tackles or scoring goals but the odd forward pass into a a good position or taking a risk on the ball now and again wouldn't go a miss.
Burnopfield Mackem
Striker
I am not going to get into a pissing competition with you as to who understands football the most. However, as I alluded to DM certainly divides opinion, this thread probably back this up. I think he’s poor and you rate him. That’s fine that’s what football supporters do. But pack the billy big bollocks patter about not understanding football.
He scored about half his goals from open play simply down to having the drive and unselfish running to get into the box.
Mcgeady is and if McGeouch is in the top 5 we are truly fucked.
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He was our best player by far V Oxford I don't think he was our worst player by far V Ipswich unless people think otherwise , different posters view him completely differently .
Coeus
Striker
It's because those that dont, dont understand football on a higher level like those that do. Fact.
Burnopfield Mackem
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Another one using the don’t understand football theory to those that simply don’t rate DM.
Coeus
Striker
I think those that get so angry about people liking Dylan is because deep down, in an almost instinctive manner they know there is something there that they dont understand and the primate kicks in.
toomdog
Midfield
Well I think you’re completely wrong, I think he is has ability to hold possession and and does not turn possession over cheaply. I’ve watched our back 3/4 turn possession over time and time again against both Oxford and Ipswich yet this lad is always offers an outlet and can retain the ball allowing them to push up the field and get back into position.
Burnopfield Mackem
Striker
It’s not difficult to pass the ball, albeit crisply, backwards or sideways at a maximum length of around 10 yards to a teammate. If any pro footballer can’t do that then they have a problem.
Perryqhill
Striker
I'd have no problem with this type of play if he done what you say and looked up and looked forward to find those players himself, but too often he recycles the ball for the sake of it and passes it back to the back 3/4 you speak of, leaving them with the decision of either clearing the ball / passing forward making it a fight for possession or being brave in possession and starting moves themselves on the ground. Often he's putting players not as comfortable in possession in situations where they have to play the ball, rather than do it himself.
Northumberland Rocks
Striker
Im no fan of Ross. However, with all respect linking Ross and McGeoch in this way is beyond stupid.
AC Mack
Striker
There are people on here who claim to 'understand football' yet can't see that the type of player McGeouch is cannot play in a midfield two, unless they/he changes the type of player he is. Fortunately we saw a different McGeouch against Oxford (mom for me), however yesterday it sounds like he reverted to type. It would quite amusing if it wasn't so depressing.
I tell a lie, it is a little bit amusing seeing people defend McGeouch whilst suggesting others don't understand football.
McGeouch needs to play in a midfield three with two more dynamic central midfielders in front of him. It's pretty simple.
the veteran
Midfield
Not a fraud that's a bit strong he's just not good enough
Burnopfield Mackem
Striker
Not really, McGeoch sets the tone as an experienced midfielder and his tone is negative. Ross is negative, his style of play is negative. I feel the two are linked, but that’s just my opinion.
AC Mack
Striker
I think Dobson will be fine, I wouldn't be against him and 09 in CM though I can see Luke being RB again if he reverts back to a four, he might not be a natural there but makes less mistakes than any of the other players at the back. I was hoping Robson would be available more for the CM berth but unfortunately it looks like he is made from the same wet toilet paper as Watmore
I understand a defensive midfielder has to tackle, block and restrict the opposition and set up attacks from the back, which of these things did McGeoch do yesterday? His much heralded passing was all over the place and he found touch more than our own players, he's also slow and weak as piss.
People have compared McGeouch to Makelele, completely failing to appreciate that Makelele had a superb defensive aspect to his game, which was one of the main things that made him great.
He keeps the ball and plays in a similar position so must be Makelele lite
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