Ghandi Floss
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Hahahaha. It was tongue in cheek man. Although Gabbiadini is my God.
Plus, I’ve always said, I’ll never change up my thoughts/feelings on here, just because I’m a RAWA rep. If folk don’t like it, that’s up to them.
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Donald on BBC Newcastle
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Hahahaha. It was tongue in cheek man. Although Gabbiadini is my God.
Plus, I’ve always said, I’ll never change up my thoughts/feelings on here, just because I’m a RAWA rep. If folk don’t like it, that’s up to them.
The Albanian
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give me any example of threat made to him on here? Just one.
Black Cat Gypsy
Striker
It doesn't add up. He has told some many lies, half truths and stories about how great he has done or is doing he has backed himself into a corner. I'm not buying this story about the loan. It's no different to getting a loan from a bank. The SoL and AoL would be used as security just like it is now (yes I know it's Madrox that has the loan etc.
).If he's getting upset about people calling him a chancer then he needs to go a pair ffs! God help him if someone like Eamon Dunphy, Roy Keane or Graeme Souness had a go at him.
I’ve avoided reading all through the threads on this but at random I saw one post yesterday refer to him and CM as ‘bullshitting crooks’. Another said ‘absolute coward’ about DS and one said ‘bottle job’. That’s without even looking. And loads flat out calling them liars.
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MADBOB THE MAKEM
Winger
BUT that does not show the guarantees he and Charlie have put forward, with respect to any on here who don't like what they are doing, then follow another team its their business let them run it their way, its their money to loose
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I thought he had more difficult questions from Prydey last night than at any point before. I think switching to the established media is the correct course of action rather than him fielding questions about getting a faster pint at half time.
Photo by Richard Sellers/PA Images via Getty Images Sunderland owner Stewart Donald emerged from the shadows yesterday for an in-depth radio interview with BBC Newcastle in which he answered a lot of important questions about the club’s future. What did you make of what he had to say? Q: What are your thoughts having heard what Stewart Donald...
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Left For Dead
Winger
ThisThe biggest disappointment in that interview was the fact it came across to me that he reads and takes in far too much of this message board. Half the fukkers on here don't even go to the match
I'm thick as fuck and I know not to take any notice of the bellends on here ffs.SD probably thinks all the know nowts on here are massive ubers
Do you have proof he didn't?
This is what people are talking about, know nowts having a go when they know fuck all.
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I know for a fact he does - and it pisses him off as does twitter- it's just so easy to log in and see reaction- the real gauge is always the attendance and we have been top draw- he seems like he will lose us if we go up or not
threepenny bits
Central Defender
Listened to this last night and I'v calmed down a bit since, so many contradictions, I don't know why they haven't been up front when legally, via companies house etc, the truth comes out eventually.
They have done themselves no favours at all and lost a lot of trust with many fans, including myself.
He wasn't convincing last night, in fact he gave me more reasons not to trust him.
However that being said, and I've calmed down a bit, not many owners would publicly speak about these things, a statement that they had several people preparing was the easier option, I do think he has the clubs interest at heart, yes he will want to make a few quid out of it, I have no problem with that at all, few people work for nothing, which leads me to think that he will do right by the club, better the club does the better he does out of it, as said no issue at all with that.
It's clear that the negotiations for the takeover, and it was a takeover, Donald denied that before but stated it last night, did not go to plan, my take on this is that the current owners have valued the business on the future, which is quite normal, FFP didnt agree, Donald has said something along the lines of it will only take 10m to turn this club around and achieve the tagrets he has valued the business on, FFP have said there's the 10m then show us you can do it and we will agree to your terms.
The positive thing from this is that FFP clearly want to be involved
Donald and Methven, as I said at the start, have spouted too much hot air and contradicted each other, they realise this, they have a massive January coming up, he's made the decision rightly or wrongly with the manager, and has to back him, nowthat we have some funds lets hope they get the recruitment right, we still have a chance of going up as this league is shite, we need to shift the disruptive lazy players and get some togetherness, once the fans see this they will be onside, no reason why we can't go on run of wins.
They have done themselves no favours at all and lost a lot of trust with many fans, including myself.
He wasn't convincing last night, in fact he gave me more reasons not to trust him.
However that being said, and I've calmed down a bit, not many owners would publicly speak about these things, a statement that they had several people preparing was the easier option, I do think he has the clubs interest at heart, yes he will want to make a few quid out of it, I have no problem with that at all, few people work for nothing, which leads me to think that he will do right by the club, better the club does the better he does out of it, as said no issue at all with that.
It's clear that the negotiations for the takeover, and it was a takeover, Donald denied that before but stated it last night, did not go to plan, my take on this is that the current owners have valued the business on the future, which is quite normal, FFP didnt agree, Donald has said something along the lines of it will only take 10m to turn this club around and achieve the tagrets he has valued the business on, FFP have said there's the 10m then show us you can do it and we will agree to your terms.
The positive thing from this is that FFP clearly want to be involved
Donald and Methven, as I said at the start, have spouted too much hot air and contradicted each other, they realise this, they have a massive January coming up, he's made the decision rightly or wrongly with the manager, and has to back him, nowthat we have some funds lets hope they get the recruitment right, we still have a chance of going up as this league is shite, we need to shift the disruptive lazy players and get some togetherness, once the fans see this they will be onside, no reason why we can't go on run of wins.
Wansbeck Viking
Striker
Agree with all that.
Billy Batts
Striker
Was happy in the main in what he said and thought he came across well. As usual on here the arseholes n experts are not happy unless they're pissing and moaning about summat. Reserve that for the pitch.
Apologies.
I usually try to remain on topic but reading that from a fan's rep got my back up.
I didn't pick up on the sarcasm.
Black Cat Gypsy
Striker
You have came out with some whoppers but this is the biggest. Unless the name of the club has changed to DonaldMethvenSartori AFC and is entirely new club we have every right to questioned them on how they run OUR CLUB. I agree it's their money to lose but if they fail them the club fails and at the end of the day it's the supporters who are the real losers. Maybe you ask Bury and Bolton fans about it.
careless6365
Central Defender
Having listened to the interview one overriding element did surface, and that is SD's apparent defensiveness.
Whilst its understandable that SD would choose to take this opportunity to "Have His Say", it did come across
as slightly " patting on self on the back".
Appeared to be always promoting how much has been done for the community, and club as a whole, whilst at the same
time diverting attention from the most important question "Why Are We So Shit".
Found it really frustrating to hear our current league position as being described "Not To Bad", when the performances and current form
indicate otherwise.
Lets not forget, its under this current ownership that we have recorded our worst league finish in over 140 years of existence.
I will be the first to admit that Ellis has in some way contributed to this, but at the same time our current budgetry issues are contributing even further.
Whilst its understandable that SD would choose to take this opportunity to "Have His Say", it did come across
as slightly " patting on self on the back".
Appeared to be always promoting how much has been done for the community, and club as a whole, whilst at the same
time diverting attention from the most important question "Why Are We So Shit".
Found it really frustrating to hear our current league position as being described "Not To Bad", when the performances and current form
indicate otherwise.
Lets not forget, its under this current ownership that we have recorded our worst league finish in over 140 years of existence.
I will be the first to admit that Ellis has in some way contributed to this, but at the same time our current budgetry issues are contributing even further.
Grumpy Old Man
Striker
The shares they own in Sunderland Ltd and fixed and floating charges over the assets of Sunderland Limited and SAFC Ltd. This does not create a direct financial connection between the club and FPP unless and until there is a default, and FPP take action to recover the debt. Until then it's just security, a bit like if a mate of yours is a guarantor for a loan you take out.
Not necessarily. We only know details of charged assets. We know nothing about the loan agreement itself. There are one or two clauses in the charge document, particularly in relation to convertibility in the event of default, which suggest it may be very much non-standard, and indeed more in the nature of an investment than a straight loan. Until we find out more about the loan agreement itself (something I'm already talking to RAWA about), we really don't know.
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Pepe
Striker
Just listening to it now. It isn’t great.
The financials are as clear as mud but would go with my previous assertion that the Americans are going to strangle this ownership. The famous ‘Juan’ word is muttered constantly, yet he doesn’t put any money in despite having a myriad of opportunities to do so. The owner is massively out of his depth.
The financials are as clear as mud but would go with my previous assertion that the Americans are going to strangle this ownership. The famous ‘Juan’ word is muttered constantly, yet he doesn’t put any money in despite having a myriad of opportunities to do so. The owner is massively out of his depth.
molthemackem
Striker
So why not take the loan offerfrom iSartori? Before you go on I do understand clearly the reason you set out but those shares do have a asset value. The land and holdings. I do also realise to have larger investors wanting to get on board but going from a takeover to a "Loan"for this amount, and it is small change in the bigger picture. Its also still obvious they do not have access to the readies.
Grumpy Old Man
Striker
Because this loan keeps the Americans on board. Basically, if he uses this money well, the Americans will look at further investment, which could well involve them taking an equity stake at that point.
molthemackem
Striker
I await with baited breath...
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