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Donald has tweeted about the takeover

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Grumpy Old Man said:
I know him reasonably well. He may well overdo it, but he wouldn't outright lie over something as important as this. He's a MLF who's been goinr to matches for well over forty years.
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And that’s from someone who knows him.

I think that says it all really and exactly what I’ve says all along. I don’t think he’s an out and out liar but I do think he’s a massive exaggerator, particularly when it comes to something he wants to believe will happen.
 

Pancho said:
Correct.

Your insights into the financial side of football and SAFC are always welcome and I'm sure they are a valuable resource for those of us who don't know our P&L's from our balance sheets. I've not seen anything of yours that wasn't sensible and informative.

The problem is that a number of members must just skim read threads because inaccurate assertions or simply duff info can become accepted wisdom on here in a couple of pages.

And therein lies the danger of providing a conduit for other members opinions, banned or otherwise - if the stuff turns out to be bollocks then inevitably you will be tarred with the same brush.
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Are you suggesting he stops posting ?
 
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Mrjardine said:
Better than 50/50 could be construed as around 50/50. Could be 51/49 for all we know.


What I’m getting at is the deal ISN’T DONE despite the nonsense spouted on here over the last 6 weeks.

I know that’s not what you or anyone else want to hear but that’s the reality I’m afraid.
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Suppose it all depends on what’s meant by a done deal. Could be that everything’s agreed and they’re simply waiting to get their people in place before confirming it. You’d assume the price is agreed, due diligence has been carried out and league approval has been granted by now, so should be just loose ends being tied up.

Obviously they could still pull out at the last minute, but it would seem unlikely after putting in all their time and effort and now that the hard work has been done.

The majority of people know it’s not signed off yet, but are happy that everything is looking like it’s going ahead, really can’t see the point in arguing about the semantics of a ‘done deal’.
 
Mr B said:
Suppose it all depends on what’s meant by a done deal. Could be that everything’s agreed and they’re simply waiting to get their people in place before confirming it. You’d assume the price is agreed, due diligence has been carried out and league approval has been granted by now, so should be just loose ends being tied up.

Obviously they could still pull out at the last minute, but it would seem unlikely after putting in all their time and effort and now that the hard work has been done.

The majority of people know it’s not signed off yet, but are happy that everything is looking like it’s going ahead, really can’t see the point in arguing about the semantics of a ‘done deal’.
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Semantics? A done deal is a done deal what your talking about is sheer guesswork. It could be this it could be that etc.

The fact is no fucker has a clue but given that 6 weeks this ‘done deal’ was claimed yet we are still awaiting anything remotely official it’s fair to say it wasn’t ‘done’ at the time the ITKs were claiming.

Will it go through? Hopefully and possibly but I live in the real world not a fantasy one. Just because someone says something id like to be true doesn’t mean to say im going to believe it.
 
As much as I want this to go through it won't be done until the contacts are signed, and things can go belly up right up until that point.

Look at the stuff that's played out on here?
Just after the Drumaville takeover someone (from Quinny's inner circle) posted that we were going to re-sign SKP - done deal.

Within a day its all quashed, the bloke got so much shit he disappeared for ages then came back and apologised - got pelters again.

It transpired much later that he'd actually agreed to come and agreed terms, the contracts had been agreed by all sides and it was just a mater of signing them.
The day before he was supposed travel his wife pulled the plug on it and he withdrew for the good of his family and was apparently sobbing down the phone to Quinny apologising.
The club shop were at that time printing shirts with his name on them.

These things change minute by minute, all we can do is post in good faith and take everything with a pinch of salt until the contracts are signed.

Anyone assuming it's "done" until then may end up like 'Iceman', but giving people shite for posting info if it's posted IN GOOD FAITH is in my opinion one of the worst aspects of this board.

Chill out man, it could be weeks before the dust settles and years before the real story come out.

KTF that it's going to happen.
 
T_Bone said:
Are you suggesting he stops posting ?
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How on earth did you get that impression from my entirely supportive post?

A few weeks ago I heard a rumour concerning the takeover. My first port of call was to GOM who gave me his opinion that from his perspective it was unlikely.

Based upon this opinion I didn't openly share this info with the board. I guess only when the takeover is complete will we know if my info was correct.

Speaking in a purely personal capacity, and trying not to blow smoke up his arse, I find GOM to be one of the more sensible posters on here and I'm sure he is a very useful resource for those of us not familiar with the financial aspect of football.
 
Mrjardine said:
Semantics? A done deal is a done deal what your talking about is sheer guesswork. It could be this it could be that etc.

The fact is no fucker has a clue but given that 6 weeks this ‘done deal’ was claimed yet we are still awaiting anything remotely official it’s fair to say it wasn’t ‘done’ at the time the ITKs were claiming.

Will it go through? Hopefully and possibly but I live in the real world not a fantasy one. Just because someone says something id like to be true doesn’t mean to say im going to believe it.
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I realise that you’re just looking for an argument and as always, you do it in such a way as come across as not to be to offensive so that the mods will allow you to continue, but to be honest, I can’t be bothered to waste my time on you.

Just accept that your version of a done deal is not the same as how other people interpret it and let them enjoy the moment. I’m sure they can handle the disappointment if it all falls through.
 
Pancho said:
How on earth did you get that impression from my entirely supportive post?

A few weeks ago I heard a rumour concerning the takeover. My first port of call was to GOM who gave me his opinion that from his perspective it was unlikely.

Based upon this opinion I didn't openly share this info with the board. I guess only when the takeover is complete will we know if my info was correct.

Speaking in a purely personal capacity, and trying not to blow smoke up his arse, I find GOM to be one of the more sensible posters on here and I'm sure he is a very useful resource for those of us not familiar with the financial aspect of football.
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Well done Pancho. Your most recent most reasonable posts are in complete contrast to what we are used to from you.
You have pushed a lot of very good posters off this forum.
You have been/ are a bully. I suspect you have been told to reel it in, well you have confirmed it with your silly monitor comments.
You should make your mind up what you are going to be......a good moderator which you are currently not or an outspoken poster. You are poor at both.tbh.
I think it’s too late, lots of us have had enough of you and have voted with our feet.
 
Mr B said:
I realise that you’re just looking for an argument and as always, you do it in such a way as come across as not to be to offensive so that the mods will allow you to continue, but to be honest, I can’t be bothered to waste my time on you.

Just accept that your version of a done deal is not the same as how other people interpret it and let them enjoy the moment. I’m sure they can handle the disappointment if it all falls through.
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How many ways are there to interpret it? Surely done is done? :confused:
 
T_Bone said:
Well done Pancho. Your most recent most reasonable posts are in complete contrast to what we are used to from you.
You have pushed a lot of very good posters off this forum.
You have been/ are a bully. I suspect you have been told to reel it in, well you have confirmed it with your silly monitor comments.
You should make your mind up what you are going to be......a good moderator which you are currently not or an outspoken poster. You are poor at both.tbh.
I think it’s too late, lots of us have had enough of you and have voted with our feet.
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I don’t monitor the moderation. Sometimes it seems a bit inconsistent and personal but to be fair to Pancho I earned myself an exclusion and full deserved for creating hysteria and chaos over Mexican recipes as PM’s. He was very fair and polite when I contacted him and in return one day I’ll send him a recipe as a PM to reward him.
 
T_Bone said:
Well done Pancho. Your most recent most reasonable posts are in complete contrast to what we are used to from you.
You have pushed a lot of very good posters off this forum.
You have been/ are a bully. I suspect you have been told to reel it in, well you have confirmed it with your silly monitor comments.
You should make your mind up what you are going to be......a good moderator which you are currently not or an outspoken poster. You are poor at both.tbh.
I think it’s too late, lots of us have had enough of you and have voted with our feet.
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A good mod when you agree with him and a bad one when you dont? Mods are not there purely to agree with you, I or anyone else. I also doubt very much whether many if any posters have left this board over recent events. The other board seems to get traffic from posters quoting what happens on here.
 
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The Good Sir said:
How many ways are there to interpret it? Surely done is done? :confused:
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If you’re buying a house and agree a fee, some people may believe they’ve got a deal. Others may be a bit more cautious and wait until they have the mortgage approved before they tell friends that they have a deal. I would prefer to wait until the survey (due diligence) has been completed and I’m happy to proceed, even though I still don’t own it at that point, I know I would be happy to proceed and would only pull out if something unusual happened, like I suddenly lost my job. To me the deal is then agreed and we’re just waiting for the formalities.

In reality the deal isn’t done until the contracts have been signed, but most people are happy to consider the deal to be done before that (rightly or wrongly), even though it’s not 100% guaranteed at that time.

This deal looks as though the new owners are happy to proceed, and are just tying up a few loose ends, so it looks like a done deal to me. Obviously they may decide to pull out at the last minute after putting in a lot of effort to buy the club, but likewise they could buy it and decide it was a bad move and decide not to invest further funds into the club, but does it really matter, they’ve agreed a deal and it’s almost signed off. A week or two in the timescale of a major takeover is minuscule.
 
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Mr B said:
If you’re buying a house and agree a fee, some people may believe they’ve got a deal. Others may be a bit more cautious and wait until they have the mortgage approved before they tell friends that they have a deal. I would prefer to wait until the survey (due diligence) has been completed and I’m happy to proceed, even though I still don’t own it at that point, I know I would be happy to proceed and would only pull out if something unusual happened, like I suddenly lost my job. To me the deal is then agreed.

In reality the deal isn’t done until the contracts have been signed, but most people are happy to consider the deal to be done before that (rightly or wrongly), even though it’s not 100% guaranteed at that time.

This deal looks as though the new owners are happy to proceed, and are just tying up a few loose ends, so it looks like a done deal to me. Obviously they may decide to pull out at the last minute after putting in a lot of effort to buy the club, but likewise they could buy it and decide it was a bad move and decide not to invest further funds into the club, but does it really matter, they’ve agreed a deal and it’s almost signed off. A week or two in the timescale of a major takeover is minuscule.
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That was 2 weeks ago. Is it another 2 weeks? We were also told. GOM and his mate reiver that it was staffing issues only. Or did I read it all incorrectly?
 
richest said:
That was 2 weeks ago. Is it another 2 weeks? We were also told. GOM and his mate reiver that it was staffing issues only. Or did I read it all incorrectly?
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Bear in mind that I know nowt, Donald said yesterday that it would take another week or two, hopefully that’ll be the maximum. Staffing issues were mentioned, so you would assume they want their own people in place for key positions and that seems reasonable to me, so most people are assuming this is what is causing the slight delay.
 
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