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Do Not Let Northumbria Police Control The Narrative

Wakoro

Wakoro

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They have failed in their duty to protect football fans trying to attend a football match and they're now trying to spin it as if Sunderland fans are to blame. This is shades of the central station stitch up all over again.

They insisted on escorting us but did not have adequate police numbers in place to do so. Escorts just result in thousands of mags lining the route waiting to attack stragglers. I was there years ago when they decided on no escort and there was no bother because no mags lined the route.

They should have either dispersed the crowds or had enough coppers to prevent them attacking.

Not only the fans, they failed to protect the team bus because they again let thousands of mags wait for them with bottles in hand.

We as a fan group really need to get on top of this before the police narrative that we're to blame takes hold in the media. Do not let them get away with this, it is unacceptable in today's age that fans are blamed for getting beaten for trying to attend a football match

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Above is the Northumbria Police complaints form, everyone needs to let them know we aren't happy and want a full inquiry of their failures to protect us and our team bus

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Email of the leader of Sunderland council who can also advocate for us with Northumbria Police.
 

Just finished watching BBC Look North and they are pushing the police narrative that there was minimal violence.

There was a clear failure to protect Sunderland fans, we were walked through a literal gauntlet of violent, drunken fans, who were holding weapons. They should have dispersed them or had police lining the entire route holding them back.

We need to speak to for ourselves and demand an inquiry into their failures, because next time everyone might not walk away.

Most of those throwing bottles and punches are on camera, so why are they not being arrested today?
 
Wakoro said:
Just finished watching BBC Look North and they are pushing the police narrative that there was minimal violence.

There was a clear failure to protect Sunderland fans, we were walked through a literal gauntlet of violent, drunken fans, who were holding weapons. They should have dispersed them or had police lining the entire route holding them back.

We need to speak to for ourselves and demand an inquiry into their failures, because next time everyone might not walk away.

Most of those throwing bottles and punches are on camera, so why are they not being arrested today?
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Agreed. It’s an absolute disgrace.
 
I think the OP is slightly overdoing it. Thousands of rival fans in the same area are going to throw missiles and hurl insults and stopping short of wading it and smashing folk with batons and shields they cant really do owt other than contain and put distance between the crowds which they did for the most part. I didnt see anyone attacked that was in the escort. If you are going to refuse to use the escort and decide to make your own way then dont be blaming the police if youre outed and attacked.

It certainly wasnt a set up ffs.
 
I don't think it was numbers of police it was logistics of broadcasting the escort route and then outrageously allowing so many visitors congregate there to be twats.
 
Doberman said:
I think the OP is slightly overdoing it. Thousands of rival fans in the same area are going to throw missiles and hurl insults and stopping short of wading it and smashing folk with batons and shields they cant really do owt other than contain and put distance between the crowds which they did for the most part. I didnt see anyone attacked that was in the escort. If you are going to refuse to use the escort and decide to make your own way then dont be blaming the police if youre outed and attacked.

It certainly wasnt a set up ffs.
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Few moochers on long leads would have helped
 
Roker-73 said:
There was bottles and coins etc thrown in to the escort tbf mate
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Was the same in the 2-2 at our ground when we hadn't played them for a while. All sorts going over into them including a lot of coins. This was when they were stood outside the away end and the polis were trying to move people on.
 
Roker-73 said:
There was bottles and coins etc thrown in to the escort tbf mate
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Yep I know, I mentioned that at the beginning of the post.

There's two solutions here.

Force everyone to use buses.

Wade into them batons swinging to move them on.

Neither are great solutions.

Anyone that chooses the escort shouldn't be surprised when missiles are thrown.
 
Doberman said:
I think the OP is slightly overdoing it. Thousands of rival fans in the same area are going to throw missiles and hurl insults and stopping short of wading it and smashing folk with batons and shields they cant really do owt other than contain and put distance between the crowds which they did for the most part. I didnt see anyone attacked that was in the escort. If you are going to refuse to use the escort and decide to make your own way then dont be blaming the police if youre outed and attacked.

It certainly wasnt a set up ffs.
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I agree people seem to be getting very worked up about it. Lots of opinions of people who weren’t there, but have seen a couple of videos & want to get all offended.

Personally, my day passed extremely easily, where I did what I wanted & without any kind of violence. I want it to be the same next year. All these people wanting to highlight it makes it more likely more stringent arrangements are put it place in future. I don’t want or need an escort, I’m a big boy. Anybody who’s worried can jump on the buses & get dropped off at the turnstiles.
Doberman said:
Anyone that chooses the escort shouldn't be surprised when missiles are thrown.
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This. I’m not saying it’s ok or should be expected, but there’s a very simple way to take you out of the situation. All the pleading for more police protection could just bus it.
 
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Wakoro said:
Just finished watching BBC Look North and they are pushing the police narrative that there was minimal violence.

There was a clear failure to protect Sunderland fans, we were walked through a literal gauntlet of violent, drunken fans, who were holding weapons. They should have dispersed them or had police lining the entire route holding them back.

We need to speak to for ourselves and demand an inquiry into their failures, because next time everyone might not walk away.

Most of those throwing bottles and punches are on camera, so why are they not being arrested today?
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Fairly sure they will be once they are identified.

Cast your mind back to the riots it took months for that to happen, and even up to a year later they were still being arrested.
 
Doberman said:
Yep I know, I mentioned that at the beginning of the post.

There's two solutions here.

Force everyone to use buses.

Wade into them batons swinging to move them on.

Neither are great solutions.

Anyone that chooses the escort shouldn't be surprised when missiles are thrown.
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I remember folk on here kicking off at the thought that they would be 'bubbled' in by police.
 
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