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Derby County deal expected to collapse


Gloucester said:
By ‘their’ you mean the owners though.

It is not the fault of the fans. That said, if they fold the city of Derby will have to start again- no other option.
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But the same fans took the píss out of my lot, when their wildly overspending club relegated us. The same fans went on Twitter, telling everyone how wealthy Mel Morris is.

So, those fans can suck it up when the tap gets turned off.
 
Joe Baker said:
The football creditors rule is to stop the collapse of any club creating a domino effect down the line.
  • Club A buys a player on deferred payment terms from Club B, who buy a replacement from Club C, also on deferred terms
  • Without the football creditors rule, If Club A goes bust this risks Club B and Club C also going bust as they rely on the deferred payments to pay their ongoing bills.
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I’m aware of what it’s for. It’s the risk of domino collapse that should be motivating them to sort the game out.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Agents should be paid by players, and only players. Publishers, theatres, orchestras and choirs, etc, don't pay agents. Why should football be any different?
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They are going to carry on taking a fortune out of the game its a suggestion for regulating how much they can earn. If its down to the player paying the agent then the sky remains the limit
 
Hot Since 82 said:
They are going to carry on taking a fortune out of the game its a suggestion for regulating how much they can earn. If its down to the player paying the agent then the sky remains the limit
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its none of the games business how much a player chooses of their own wages to give to an agwent...if they dint spend it on an agent they would spend it on a fast car or something else thats not part of the game
 
kildaremackem said:
its none of the games business how much a player chooses of their own wages to give to an agwent...if they dint spend it on an agent they would spend it on a fast car or something else thats not part of the game
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It's not part of the game but should be that's the entire point, limiting and massively reducing the amount these parasites are stealing from the game would be the whole idea.
 
Hot Since 82 said:
It's not part of the game but should be that's the entire point, limiting and massively reducing the amount these parasites are stealing from the game would be the whole idea.
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so the players dont give it to the agent..and give it to a lexus car salesman instead..how does the game benefit?
 
Hot Since 82 said:
Less gets paid out as there isn't millions needed to pay the agent. They have been paid a legally agreed sum already and far less than in the current unregulated market.
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but how can you tell the player how much to pay? how can you stop him paying more if he wants to?
also whats your definition of an agent...many of the biggest names in the world pf football, such asjobachian, are not registeered as agents anywhere..yet run some of the biggest deals on the planet..jobachian has played a huge role in the transfer policies of arsenal, evergton and reading in recent seasons...he isnt registered as an agent anywhere and rejects being called an agent..
 
Kevsgreat said:
Problem is there's too much self interest and clubs can't be trusted to self regulate. Parachute payments are chucking money at a problem and making them worse.
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ok abolish parachute payments..what happens? the premier league club who generated the income from which the para money is paid..keep more of it..how does that help anyone else?
 
Barnsley said:
But the same fans took the píss out of my lot, when their wildly overspending club relegated us. The same fans went on Twitter, telling everyone how wealthy Mel Morris is.

So, those fans can suck it up when the tap gets turned off.
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Certainly have no wish to see them go out of business, but yeah, there was a fair bit of gloating going on about them being 'able to afford' players that we (Boro) couldn't.
Also, the way a large section of their support blamed our chairman for the mess they found themselves in, as opposed to actually accepting what went on.
 
kildaremackem said:
ok abolish parachute payments..what happens? the premier league club who generated the income from which the para money is paid..keep more of it..how does that help anyone else?
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Owners or potential owners know that in the event of relegation there's no more money. Nothing to borrow against, nothing to fall back on once the original windfall is pissed away.

You must admit that the point of parachute payments, to soften the financial blow of relegation, has become lost now. It just gives those championship teams a big advantage.

Also, parachute payments stop if a club is relegated then promoted again. What happens to the remaining payment(s)? Do they go back in the pot for PL teams to share anyway?
 
kildaremackem said:
but how can you tell the player how much to pay? how can you stop him paying more if he wants to?
also whats your definition of an agent...many of the biggest names in the world pf football, such asjobachian, are not registeered as agents anywhere..yet run some of the biggest deals on the planet..jobachian has played a huge role in the transfer policies of arsenal, evergton and reading in recent seasons...he isnt registered as an agent anywhere and rejects being called an agent..
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You stop him paying the agent more by outlawing it, hence the agent gets paid direct by a club. It needs changing and thorough and enforced regulations. This fella you refer to wouldn't be allowed to operate.
 
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Hot Since 82 said:
You stop him paying the agent more by outlawing it, hence the agent gets paid direct by a club. It needs changing and thorough and enforced regulations.
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ok so you are banning a player from hiring the agent of their choice then..they have to accepot the one the club is paying for...
....good luck getting that through court in a free country...
define an agent for me?
roy keane and niall quinn never used a licensed agent..nor does paul pogba now...can they pay their person-their person isnt an agent?
 
kildaremackem said:
ok abolish parachute payments..what happens? the premier league club who generated the income from which the para money is paid..keep more of it..how does that help anyone else?
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You’ve forgotten to pretend to be semi-literate/on a phone/dyslexic (delete as applicable for todays excuse).
 
kildaremackem said:
ok so you are banning a player from hiring the agent of their choice then..they have to accepot the one the club is paying for...
....good luck getting that through court in a free country...
define an agent for me?
roy keane and niall quinn never used a licensed agent..nor does paul pogba now...can they pay their person-their person isnt an agent?
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Free country? That's the whole point man the market place is totally fucked hence the need for laws to be introduced. The solicitor how acted for quinn and Keane didn't take a penny out of the game, he wouldn't be a problem and would probably comply easily with any laws introduced
 
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