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David Moyes

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And whose fault is that? There are two right backs he signed who can't get in the team ahead of Billy Jones. He signed three centre halves yet we've been desperate for O'Shea back in.

I'm delighted we've got the wins but they haven't changed my opinion of Moyes to be honest. I think he's taken us so far backwards from the end of last season and isn't the man for us, but he's there now and I'll back him and his team at the games.
Only 2 points worse
 
I'm still not convinced by the bloke at all.

Pleased we've won the last two games, but please, let's not be suddenly coming to the conclusion that the bloke's the reincarnation of Bob Paisley, or owt...
 
Distinct lack of credit for our manager, he has taken an almighty slagging the past 2/3 months so he deserves some credit for the past 2 wins.

We won two games but looked absolutely awful and could just as easily have lost both. I want him to do well, I want us to stay up but feck me he is making it difficult
 
big vic's contributions and pickford finding his feet have been the difference. moyes needs to get the back four looking a lot more convincing for him to start earning a bit of praise imo (and i'm one who wants to stick with moyes too). i just remember how big sam managed to get pva staying in position and looking like a capable defender, moyes needs to get on this if we are to have a hope

No one expected big Vic to be our best signing of the summer thus far... But here we are.

The signings we targeted and brought in during the window still look as suspect as ever...

Hull is terrible.

I wish we could play them every week.
 
Loads of ifs here but....
2 mins away from a point a man city
Goalkeepering error down at southampton robbing us 2 extra points
Last minute goal from west ham from a defender with no left foot scores a screamer. 1 more point.
Total player capitulation against Crystal Palace when 2-0 up.

So a total of 7 more points that we should have had with a make shift team. If (massive if) we had those points we'd be 8th!
So its not like we are miles away, performances haven't been great, but they are unlikely to be when the team is decimated.
Its also clear we didn't get the players he wanted in the summer.
 
If he can sort that defense out I'll credit him if not we'll go down because of it....everything else has just been slapped together because we are short of body's and the two up top is a know brainer, most of us here have been screaming for that for weeks as Defoe was isolated, every time it was lumped up to him because of his height it was useless and ended up us being pegged back as the ball was coming straight back at us. Long way to go before he starts to get his dues.
 
Attendances have got nothing to do with anything you cracker :lol:
well you might be happy that clubs with less support--and associated extra income from sponsorship, kit sales etc--keep finishing above us so be it!
Money we have wasted without improving is crazy while other clubs show it can be done on the cheap!
 
And whose fault is that? There are two right backs he signed who can't get in the team ahead of Billy Jones. He signed three centre halves yet we've been desperate for O'Shea back in.

I'm delighted we've got the wins but they haven't changed my opinion of Moyes to be honest. I think he's taken us so far backwards from the end of last season and isn't the man for us, but he's there now and I'll back him and his team at the games.
There's issues with his transfers absolutely. But 30m and th wage budget we had was always going to leave us short
 
Loads of ifs here but....
2 mins away from a point a man city
Goalkeepering error down at southampton robbing us 2 extra points
Last minute goal from west ham from a defender with no left foot scores a screamer. 1 more point.
Total player capitulation against Crystal Palace when 2-0 up.

So a total of 7 more points that we should have had with a make shift team. If (massive if) we had those points we'd be 8th!
So its not like we are miles away, performances haven't been great, but they are unlikely to be when the team is decimated.
Its also clear we didn't get the players he wanted in the summer.

Good positive post marra.
 
I'm not gonna jump on the he's won two games we're gonna win the league mentality like, two extremely poor teams one that was playing kids and frankly battered us until Defoe had enough and took advantage.

For the most part we look absolute dogshite, the reasons seem to be McNair, ndong, djilibodji, and kone's new form. All Moyes' influences. Our distinct lack of midfield makes our back 4 look even more suspect and with bodji and kone error prone im not looking forward to how big of a hiding we'll get against the big scorers like Liverpool or Chelsea at the minute.

If we manage to not get beat against Liverpool next week then I'll give him some credit
 
We won two games but looked absolutely awful and could just as easily have lost both. I want him to do well, I want us to stay up but feck me he is making it difficult

I'm by no means a massive fan of his but we could've equally drew against Palace and drew against West Ham.

We have won two games, surely just stop and take a step back from there?
 
Ive said it before. Ill say it again......

I like him. Hope hes here for decades
He's not making any excuses, he says we lack quality but he's slowly turning things around. Today it was obvious that the players were more passionate. The goal celebrations showed how much they wanted the win. I think Moyes is starting to get through to the players how he wants them to play and winning will improve confidence within the squad.
 
These last two wins have almost proven that people have made their minds up about him and won't be giving the bloke any sort of leeway in the future. Shame really.
Wins are what we needed in these last two games after recording the worst ever start to a premier league season. Going forward from here it's performances we need now, we won't win many more games if we continue to perform like we have thus far, this is what people are concerned about.
 
Wins are what we needed in these last two games after recording the worst ever start to a premier league season. Going forward from here it's performances we need now, we won't win many more games if we continue to perform like we have thus far, this is what people are concerned about.
No, it's still wins we need.
 
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