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Coventry, Ipswich and Hull

jcrossan said:
So he acknowledges they'll be going back down. fair dos, though you think he might have given a little hope to their fans.
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He actually went a bit further than that and was critical of us doing it! We started with virtually a full new team, but when you look at the players we have used, Hume, Le Fee, Ballard, Rigg, Isidor, and to a lesser extent Girl in and Mayenda, have all been played from last season's team.
 

joop said:
Maybe, but it’s not all that relevant. It could be argued that Burnley had a better base squad than safc 12 months ago.
Certainly Coventry have a decent squad and were the strongest in the championship this season but you will need to spend good money, bring in successful loans and prepare a squad to play sensible football to have a chance.
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A lot of the credit must go to Lampard because Coventry's budget would have been way less than the parachute teams.
Ipswich are on the second bounce of a yo-yo plan so maybe the gap isn't as wide for them.
Hull I reckon will stock up on Turkish talent so could go either way😀
 
ihamsafc said:
However much we dislike it or disagree with it, fans of all three will see us and their fellow promotees as the ones to beat. Bookies likely to agree, citing a vast overachievement by us this season. The task next season is to change their minds as quickly as possible.
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Aye they will be banging on about "Second season syndrome". Which if it did exist at all makes it a little difficult to account for the fact that the majority of the Clubs in the Premier League have spent more than two season in it,
 
Of the three I think Ipswich have the best chance.

Looking at Hull’s team yesterday they’d need to spend more than we did to even be the slightest bit competitive
 
Ipswich - McKenna hasn’t proven he can adapt his style of play

Hull - They’ll get a case of the Phil Browns

Frank Lampard’s Coventry - I hear they’re getting Hayden Hackney. Says it all.
 
One of the most important things we done after getting promoted was appointing a Director of Football who had vast experience in the European market, Ghisolfi has been a game changer for us. If the newly promoted teams are just going to let their managers sign the players they will struggle badly.
 
LDNCCFC said:
If it was so bad, why did Stoke finish where they always finish?
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That isn't really a barometer of how strong the league was? Lots of mitigation as to why we finished where we did.

Out of all the teams in the league, we had the third highest amount of days in the top 2 and still finished 17th, which is a better barometer of how poor the league was. Our team last year was so unbalanced and I said that on here when we were 2nd, that we had no chance of finishing anywhere near that.

At one point in the season we won 1 game in 7 and dropped from 2nd to just 4th.

I get you are happy with winning the league and fair play to you, but let's not try and put lipstick on a pig here.
 
Mowbray Boss Gilet said:
Out of the 3 Coventry will do the best I think.

All 3 will struggle guaranteed I think. Sunderland success and spending won't be duplicated for a while I don't think. Leeds already had a good squad and spent a fair bit as well, Burnley who didn't invest seen what happens.

Ipswich will learn lessons from previous experience, but I can't see them having enough.

It's a massive positive the calibre of teams which have been promoted, everyone knows if we qualify for Europe it could potentially hinder our league position, not that I think it will if it happens as I think we will build a deep enough squad to cope with it, but we can be confident the teams which have come up should be of a bad quality to go straight back down.
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The potential impact of qualifying for and having a successful campaign in Europe is a concern. Villa managed it extremely well (after a pretty poor start), the mags nowhere near. Spurs have struggled very badly 2 years running and could still be relegated today. Palace have coped, just, but getting to a final like they have must add about 18 additional fixtures. Hopefully it's a scenario we will have planned well for though.
 
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Hot Since 82 said:
The potential impact of qualifying for and having a successful campaign in Europe is a concern. Villa managed it extremely well (after a pretty poor start), the mags nowhere near. Spurs have struggled very badly 2 years running and could still be relegated today. Palace have coped, just, but getting to a final like they have must add about 18 additional fixtures. Hopefully it's a scenario we will have planned well for though.
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We'd need two credible starting elevens.
Last year's Carabao scratch team won't do.
 
Seaham Towny said:
Of the three I think Ipswich have the best chance.

Looking at Hull’s team yesterday they’d need to spend more than we did to even be the slightest bit competitive
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Unfortunately Coventry for me with lampard in charge he’ll have the pick of the best crop of youngsters from West Ham & Chelsea for loans
 
I think the mags will struggle, all their so called best players seem to want away and I can see a lot of the proceeds going back to Saudi. No half decent player will sign for them as they won't be able to offer high wages. Might put a monkey on them going down in place of either cov or Ipswich
 
Not read all 13 pages so it may already have been posted but interestingly all three clubs have been in L1 as little ago as 2020.

It’s a path we know well. Good luck to all of them.
 
It’s easy to say just do a Sunderland and spend £160m and you’ll have a great chance to stay up.

I think that undermines what our recruitment team did. Masuaku was a miss, adingra and diarra probably maybes but every other signing was a hit. It’s not very often any team has that level of joy when making signings.
 
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