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Could we lose a generation of supporters to the Mags?

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It’s already happened “once”. I left the UK in ‘91 and returned for 6 months in ‘96 and the amount of new mags around East Durham was alarming. That will continue if we’re wallowing in the lower leagues and they’re buying world class players. Kids want to be associated with success, it’s as simple as that.
 

The scale of difference between the clubs will probably become something like that which exists between Leeds Utd and Bradford City. I.e One pulls support from all over England, the other from within a 4 mile radius of the ground. :confused:
 
The mags will gain a lot of fans who have a passive interest in football who never go to games, but will claim to be massive fans.

I know a lot of people who weren't interested in football at all, but are now all of a sudden giving it large on social media wearing shitty retro mag tops saying they're going to win the league etc.
 
Not to the Mags. In the early/ mid 90's English clubs werent a massive threat in Europe and the traditional big names that had dominated for the last decade Liverpool, Arsenal and Everton were in one way or another faltering. Chelsea were establishing themselves after 25 years of obscurity. This left Blackburn and Newcastle with their new wealth to exploit this vacuum to rival Man United until the big names got their shit back together.
Now Man City and Liverpool are arguably the best 2 teams in the world. Chelsea are Champions League winners and football is watched mainly on your phone and not the stadium. It doesn't matter if a team is 30 miles away or 300 miles away. We'll lose young fans no doubt but the Mags will do well to get them
 
Haswell Makem said:
The mags weren't a particularly well supported club until the Keegan era, but of course with the success they had in the league (albeit without winning anything), there stock rose.
The longer we are in this league, then the same will happen again, especially with the Saudi's hoying money at it.
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Paxton said:
The next 5 years will be a huge period of transformation for both clubs.

As things stand:

1) Newcastle are a club that appear to be on the rise. If they manage to stay up this season (which is now looking likely) they will be a spent force, throwing endless amounts of money at the hope of silverware. They will sadly become a big player in English football if the barbaric Saudis have their way. I can't see how this plays out badly for them; they have an endless pot of cash.

2) Sunderland are a club on the decline. We are breaking new records for all the wrong reasons, and reaching new 'lows' as the weeks go by. It looks like we will spend another season in the third tier, with most of our better players surely departing for pastures of new. Right now we find ourselves in a pretty precarious situation, and I don't see where it ends. The worst could be yet to come!

The sad and disconcerting point to consider is this - over the next 5 years or so do we risk losing a generation of younger fans to the Mags? Unfortunately I would say this is a real possibility.
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You lost me after the first paragraph
 
Bomba should change his name to Bisto Clown, These mags that sign up on their rivals board, pretend to Sunderland fans, show what a set of obsessed muppets they are and that isn't including them turning up at our games frequently and they wonder why we think they are horse punching, camel humping, city smashing pathetic idiots, just many reasons they are not liked all over the country by many other teams fans.
 
It feels inevitable we'll lose a chunk of the younger generation.

The reality is we'll not really be able to compete with them in the future, but we still have an opportunity to sell the club.

With who our rivals are and what they represent Sunderland have a chance to become a bit of a cool club. Something maybe akin to union Berlin. They need to play on the fan experience, get a unique atmosphere generated. It may get kids wanting to go along to our matches, rather than go to what will be a plastic st James' acting as a flimsy cover for a murderous state.

But more importantly we need to get the club semi functioning and in the championship, and we certainly need to be free of any element of madrox to allow us to progress.
 
I've never lost any sleep about people deciding to follow the mags, but I have lost sleep over our decline during the last 5 years. If we get on with trying to get ourselves sorted we'll get the support we deserve. People of any age who choose to support clubs based on silverware will soon move on when it dries up, stuff them.
 
To be fair we won't lose many as it's our parents who normally guide us.
If they want to change clubs it's up to them however its totally embarrassing for them
 
The club is dying and our nearest neighbours now have the funding and motivation to win things year after year.

They’ll win the PL this side of 2030. We won’t even see the PL before then.

Huge loss of fans, greater than the haemorrhage of the 1990s. To be honest I think we’ll be looking at a substantially different SAFC by then and we may struggle to get more than 25k at home.
 
Paxton said:
The next 5 years will be a huge period of transformation for both clubs.

As things stand:

1) Newcastle are a club that appear to be on the rise. If they manage to stay up this season (which is now looking likely) they will be a spent force, throwing endless amounts of money at the hope of silverware. They will sadly become a big player in English football if the barbaric Saudis have their way. I can't see how this plays out badly for them; they have an endless pot of cash.

2) Sunderland are a club on the decline. We are breaking new records for all the wrong reasons, and reaching new 'lows' as the weeks go by. It looks like we will spend another season in the third tier, with most of our better players surely departing for pastures of new. Right now we find ourselves in a pretty precarious situation, and I don't see where it ends. The worst could be yet to come!

The sad and disconcerting point to consider is this - over the next 5 years or so do we risk losing a generation of younger fans to the Mags? Unfortunately I would say this is a real possibility.
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Without doubt and certainly within Northumberland.

The absolute shambles of the past couple of weeks by the owners and management of SAFC has accelerated that process.
 
Haswell Makem said:
The mags weren't a particularly well supported club until the Keegan era, but of course with the success they had in the league (albeit without winning anything), there stock rose.
The longer we are in this league, then the same will happen again, especially with the Saudi's hoying money at it.
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That is myth that like. Newcastle and Sunderland were the best supported clubs outside the PL when it started, better than a lot of clubs in it.
Paxton said:
The next 5 years will be a huge period of transformation for both clubs.

As things stand:

1) Newcastle are a club that appear to be on the rise. If they manage to stay up this season (which is now looking likely) they will be a spent force, throwing endless amounts of money at the hope of silverware. They will sadly become a big player in English football if the barbaric Saudis have their way. I can't see how this plays out badly for them; they have an endless pot of cash.

2) Sunderland are a club on the decline. We are breaking new records for all the wrong reasons, and reaching new 'lows' as the weeks go by. It looks like we will spend another season in the third tier, with most of our better players surely departing for pastures of new. Right now we find ourselves in a pretty precarious situation, and I don't see where it ends. The worst could be yet to come!

The sad and disconcerting point to consider is this - over the next 5 years or so do we risk losing a generation of younger fans to the Mags? Unfortunately I would say this is a real possibility.
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I can't be the only person that is aware of the kids of "mags" that were sucked (or maybe suckered) into SAFC by the cheap tickets for schools and are still fans?
 
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