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And there's the issue.Im not being funny, but I want our players to do what they can within reason to win the game. It's up to the referee to officiate if they do it within the rules.
How can you expect someone not to grapple at corners when everyone else is?
I would fully support a world in which the Southampton goalkeeper would receive a red card for his reaction last night.Players are conditioned to cheat now. Just watch any throw in or corner decision. Even if it’s blatantly obvious to everyone in the ground which side’s player kicked the ball out of play, you can guarantee that almost as a default reaction both players will claim it’s their throw or corner.
Then the play acting or diving is farcical. Bruno Fernandes on Saturday gets brushed by the fingers of Angulo as he runs - in what other scenario does such a light contact cause a grown man to fall to the ground clutching his face! Same again in last nights playoff game when the Southampton keeper falls dramatically to the floor as if he’s been poleaxed after a light flick of a finger.
I thought the ref in the boro match last night had an excellent game. One of the best I have seen this season.They have got worse because on field referees are doing less and less refereeing. So teams are doing whatever they can get away with and as we've seen often VAR will get it wrong.
I'd love to see an on field referee call both captains over before a corner and make it clear he will blow if he sees holding. Give out a couple of yellow cards for persistent offences then it will soon stop. Players will instantly have more respect for the referee as well.
That side of refereeing has gone unfortunately. The ref in the Soton Boro game last night was prime example. He's usually a premier league referee and no longer knows how to manage a game when VAR is not there
Careful now. I’ve been labelled the “lowest of the low” on here for empathising with refs in the past. Personally I would’ve put murderers, rapists and paedos lower, but apparently not.I know the refereeing has been poor this season, but one thing that seems to be underemphasised is the rampant cheating that’s going on. It’s a hard enough job as it is, but when you throw in the cheating it’s hardly surprising standards are so poor. Seems like the football world is keen to bemoan refereeing standards and VAR, when if players just played like men and didn’t try and con the ref I’m sure standards would be a lot better.
Hardly a hot take but it does me head in how much we just accept the dark arts.
I can't recall it happening in rugby.
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Did you see the item about Monty on the news today... the General. He was at a Scotland v England game at Hampden, 130k crowd. The small clip of the game they showed, a player ran into the penalty area, waited for the tackle, then skipped before throwing himself to the turf. It looks like the cheating has been going on for centuries.Blaming the referee for failing to control 22 players trying their best to cheat is a secondary criticism. The primary criticism should aimed at the players, they’re the ones to blame for all the carrying-on which goes on during a game these days, it puts you off watching. Must be a nightmare being a referee.
Watching the Big Match Revisited on ITV at the minute and, even though the quality isn’t at the same level, it’s refreshing to see matches which basically are just games of football; no gamesmanship, no time-wasting and very little cheating.
Yeah Reinaldo and Mukiele are two of our worst offendersAnd too many blinkered fans, who are happy enough to see their own players cheat but up in arms when the opposition do it. You can’t be critical of others if you condone your own.
I agree, seem to think if there’s contact players are entitled to go down -it supposed to be a contact sportNot just us, the commentators and so called pundits too.
'buying a free kick', 'entitled to go down'.
What a load of shite, they're legitimising cheating.
I understand that players will grapple at corners. But I would make it a straight yellow if they grab the opposition at a corner without looking where the ball is.Im not being funny, but I want our players to do what they can within reason to win the game. It's up to the referee to officiate if they do it within the rules.
How can you expect someone not to grapple at corners when everyone else is?
Nar, totally disagree. Football is getting worse. Ridiculously unsporting behaviour is shit. Actively looking to get your opponents sent off should be red-carded and stamped out of the game. I don't like it when the keeper goes up to intimidate the penalty-taker etc and other shitty tactics like interrupting play at key moments. Just get on with the f***ing game and play like sportsmen.Im not being funny, but I want our players to do what they can within reason to win the game. It's up to the referee to officiate if they do it within the rules.
How can you expect someone not to grapple at corners when everyone else is?
I don't think football fans of a certain age ( let's say over 40) accept the dark arts but the younger generation will just see it as part of the game.
I'm sure the latest Xbox footy games will have a "dive" button.
It would be so easy to eradicate what with all the cameras and videos but the powers that be will not want to upset their future bread and butter.
And there's the issue.
It's why the UK has a horrendous knife carrying problem amongst the young uns.
I understand that players will grapple at corners. But I would make it a straight yellow if they grab the opposition at a corner without looking where the ball is.
I was always taught that you have to defend the ball not the player these players that only look at the player and block them push them or hold them are not playing the ball.
I’m not wanting to take the physicality out of the game you can still do that by attacking the ball.
Nar, totally disagree. Football is getting worse. Ridiculously unsporting behaviour is shit. Actively looking to get your opponents sent off should be red-carded and stamped out of the game. I don't like it when the keeper goes up to intimidate the penalty-taker etc and other shitty tactics like interrupting play at key moments. Just get on with the f***ing game and play like sportsmen.
But their keeper will just do it to our keeper too. The best way is to just ban it. The moment the keeper approaches the taker, send him off. They will stop doing it if refs started doing that. There is no reason for a keeper to ever approach the taker so that rule can be as simple as that.They don't have a dive button in FIFA, but they did in other games 20 years ago, so by that criteria, it's got a lot better.
As for the knives stuff, just wow.
That's an officiating thing as opposed to a player though, give penalties and cards, it'll soon stop.
It's been said since time began. Players have a responsibility to win football games; officials have a responsibility to enforce the laws of the game.
I hate that penalty thing as well, as well as the time wasting they do, but I want my keeper doing it if it works.
^^^ someone that wouldn't walk after feathering an edge behind in village cricket.Im not being funny, but I want our players to do what they can within reason to win the game. It's up to the referee to officiate if they do it within the rules.
How can you expect someone not to grapple at corners when everyone else is?
But their keeper will just do it to our keeper too. The best way is to just ban it. The moment the keeper approaches the taker, send him off. They will stop doing it if refs started doing that. There is no reason for a keeper to ever approach the taker so that rule can be as simple as that.
^^^ someone that wouldn't walk after feathering an edge behind in village cricket.
Not to be trusted!