Charlie Methven

[StayPuft]

For someone that works in PR he's got a terrible public relations. He's a complete dickhead and will insult your fans at some point. The best thing for your club will be when he leaves

 

[North Yorks Mackem]

Aye, but who were they and where are they now, keep reading about this claim but there is never any factual stuff.
So CM and SD sold off these young lads and pocketed the money?

Pipe down,whoever you are, you have no clue.

Well they did promise to pay the club the money they used from it to fund their purchase but never did so yeah you could argue they did indirectly pocketed that cash.

 

[SPUFF]

I hated the wanker ever since he swore at that woman on Sunderland til I die about the attendance. Proper jumped up little prick. Thinking he was someone important with his pink trousers on

If anything summed the kernt up it was that!

 

[nandos sonic sauce]

He once played a leading role in a blockbuster Netflix TV series.

Not many people can genuinely put that on their CV.

So did Jeffrey Dhamer and the Tinder swindler from memory

 

[Sebastien]

Prepare to see what "good" feels like.

 

[si73]

Never bought his round.

 

[molthemackem]

Last Saturday he was down at Argyle along with John Macevoy and one other. Obviously lots of rumours that he has a group together to take over Argyle with him already having already gone over things like the new academy being constructed. My question is what can we expect if he takes over and is it a good or bad move. Just wishing to know your opinions Good or Bad

Bad move. The bloke is a charlatan.

 

[pfoz88]

David Brent in pink trousers. Man of the people, in his own head. Hegseth to Stuart Donald’s Trump.

 

[HarrogateMackem]

He was awful here. But to be fair, I think Charlton fans rate him a bit higher don't they?

I think the problem here was that he got the club on a whim, without a solid plan and limited understanding of how it all worked.

So when it fell apart he had no idea what to do but lie and try and bluff his way though. He also had the slight issue he genuinely thought he was the cleverest person in the room at all times - despite the fact our fanbase has far cleverer, more accomplished and people far better at buinsess then him - and people saw right through it.

Ended up being essentially sidelined because he said some stuff about northerners - which was caught on mic. Which goes back to the point above that I just made.

I think with Charlton and maybe Plymouth he takes a far more limited role - sticking to the things he's "good" at. it's also not his own money, which probably helps.

 

[bobster999]

Lots of froth, but very little beer.

All fart and no shite

 

[Wearside4eva]

Last Saturday he was down at Argyle along with John Macevoy and one other. Obviously lots of rumours that he has a group together to take over Argyle with him already having already gone over things like the new academy being constructed. My question is what can we expect if he takes over and is it a good or bad move. Just wishing to know your opinions Good or Bad

I hope for your sake he has nothing to do with your club. The man is like a slimey poison

 

[riffraff]

Tin hat on.

I think people conflate Methven with Donald's crimes against the club, probably because as personalities go, an overly confident old Etonian in pink trousers loudly and condescendingly lecturing fans on business in a braying home counties accent is about the worst one you could have to run Sunderland football club.

The issue with that takeover is that a bloke with a bit of cash (but nowhere near enough to own a top 50 club) and some experience of non league football took a punt on a club that had a serious culture problem and was haemorrhaging money as it bombed through the leagues. This was done on the basis that we were too big to stay in league 1 for more than a season (a serious miscalculation), and was compounded by a few misleading statements and breathtakingly poor decisions.

Methven was painted as a co-investor, but his investment seemed to be mostly sweat equity - ie he got a stake in the club in return for being its CEO. As much as he rubbed people up the wrong way, he did make some much needed changes to turn the club around and halt the decline. Most of the worst decisions made in that period were driven by Donald rather than Methven.

He has since had involvement at a couple of other clubs. As far as League 1 turnarounds go, he has plenty of relevant experience, and there are much worse options than him as CEO and Chairmen throughout the sport.

Just my opinion from what I saw, heard and read at the time. I do not have any inside knowledge.

Turnarounds? Plymouth have just about been the form team in English professional football since their 13th game this season.

 

[lowesie1]

Having derbies with South Shields.

Exactly.

In a worse place - without question, but that's not really my point.

I get things right, I get things wrong, I might just have a different opinion, but I think maybe we needed a clearout and that the ownership of that time was effective in doing so, but in the long term the value was to make us more investable moving forward. There is no doubt they werent right to take us into the Premier League.

Of course a clear-out was needed but they had neither the experience or the vision to take the club forward.

Their only plan was to cost-cut and asset strip (KLD used these very words himself when he took over) and the first sign of that was getting the fans to change the seats in exchange for a pint and a burger.

Despite all the talk about "the piss-taking party stops here" etc. these two were way, way out of their depth and had no idea what they were buying into.

From day one it was all about getting promotion and flipping the club for a profit. When that failed they were screwed and it took KLD to wade through the wreckage they'd left and put us back where we are now.

 

[HeroHurley]

Well, we were floundering with no confirmed buyers and only alternative was SD and CM.
Look where we are now.

Didn't Mickey Gray have a consortium of buyers from Madrid with Donald and Methven as part of it that were wanting the club, hence the MADROX name being the buying entity? Then SD and CM went off on their own and did their own shady deal with Short. I wouldn't trust Methven as far as I could throw him.

 

[NYMackem]

Turnarounds? Plymouth have just about been the form team in English professional football since their 13th game this season.

They're doing OK this season after a poor start. But they have historically been a yoyo team between the second and third tiers, and recently they've been yoyoing between the third and fourth tiers. And haven't they had some level of corporate scandal / close scrape with administration in recent years (round about when Reid managed them)?

 

[SPUFF]

He was awful here. But to be fair, I think Charlton fans rate him a bit higher don't they?

I think the problem here was that he got the club on a whim, without a solid plan and limited understanding of how it all worked.

So when it fell apart he had no idea what to do but lie and try and bluff his way though. He also had the slight issue he genuinely thought he was the cleverest person in the room at all times - despite the fact our fanbase has far cleverer, more accomplished and people far better at buinsess then him - and people saw right through it.

Ended up being essentially sidelined because he said some stuff about northerners - which was caught on mic. Which goes back to the point above that I just made.

I think with Charlton and maybe Plymouth he takes a far more limited role - sticking to the things he's "good" at. it's also not his own money, which probably helps.

Its never his own money.

 

[HeroHurley]

These young players we sold,how many of them have a career now and ripping up the Premier like?

It wasn't about them going and ripping it up in the Premier though was it? We were a million miles away at that point. At least 2 or 3 maybe even 4 or depending on who sanctioned Greenwood going to Arsenal and Jacob Young going to Hoffenheim could have contributed at the very least to the squad.

 

[Mantobar]

Like boris johnson without the brains

 

[G Force]

Expect a dyslexic Irish/Sunderland poster spamming your message boards.

It’s when he changed overnight.

He actually started off posting eloquent sentences/paragraphs discussing Charlie & SD, a little bit of inside info early in too. Then when a few joked he probably was Charlie, he started with that new persona overnight. His excuse was his keyboard

Absolutely no idea if it was Charlie himself, but it was likely someone connected with him/the club at the time or if not, the biggest wum the board has had. To keep that up for that long.

His arrival and disappearance certainly tied in with Charlie mind

 

[Zak's Dad]

Didn't Mickey Gray have a consortium of buyers from Madrid with Donald and Methven as part of it that were wanting the club, hence the MADROX name being the buying entity? Then SD and CM went off on their own and did their own shady deal with Short. I wouldn't trust Methven as far as I could throw him.

Yep.

From memory there were two ITK accounts on here who were both singing from the same hymn sheet.
(One is still posting on here).

Then the split happened and the mud slinging started, the other ITK's brother was apparently in the finance team from the Spanish group.
SD and CM were apparently approached separately by the owner to go it alone crucially agreeing to pass the parachute payment to the owner.

Something CM denied ever happened.

I'd trust him even less than you do.