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Cattermole for England?

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If Catts was given a specific marking role on Pirlo he'd probably have been sent off.
I think he's moved on a bit now and is learning to curb his instinctive ways better than he used to.
 

Funny how everyone agrees we do need a 'Cattermole' type player in there yet he is deemed not good enough without a single mention of anyone else.

The fact is, we need a player like him and as sad as it is for English football, the role we need to fill is best suited to Cattermole.
 
England haven't had a decent ball winner since the days of Ince\Batty! We've too many 'Fancy Dans' trying to play the Hollywood pass.

I can see where the OP is coming from and agree that we need a player of this ilk - but Catts is neither disciplined or clever enough for International football.
 
I fully expect to be torn apart for saying this, but I think we needed someone like Huddlestone: keeping the ball and using it well was a bigger flaw right through the match.
Disagree, I thought we kept the ball well alst night. The problem (or one of them) was a lack of bodies in the middle of the pitch. IMO Huddlestone doesn't cover enough ground to have made much of a difference in there.
 
we didn't play that badly last night and were probably good value for 4 points with a change of luck.

but regardless of that England pick fashionable players too much, the reason teams like Uruguay over achieve is the balance they have, a player like Lee cattermole could play for Uruguay and no one would bat an eyelid but if Roy Hodgson played catts or Leon osmon in cm and it doesn't pay off it's the sort of thing that gets you the sack.

The fa clearly has a say in squad selection imo.

The only brave England manager recently was Steve mclaren.

He dropped Beckham which while probably the wrong decision still showed a willingness to play to a system instead of just picking the biggest names.
 
f***ing hell we've hit a new low...

What on earth could Cattermole add to the English National team?

The ability to tackle. Someone to close people down. Someone who can pass. He is the only English central midfielder who can play the role that he does, as well as he does, in the premier league.

The only thing that lets Cattermole down is his touch and sometimes his temperament. Both have improved as last season went on IMHO.
 
I fully expect to be torn apart for saying this, but I think we needed someone like Huddlestone: keeping the ball and using it well was a bigger flaw right through the match.
Huddlestone was the big omission from the squad IMHO

And I'm King Hindsight here, but Huddlestone / Lallana or both nursing the ball in midfield would have been better than that odd formation
 
Cattermole would have brought summit to the table last night if he had played. Certainly wouldn't have let the game pass him by like both Gerrard and Henderson.
I'm not disagreeing by the way because we have very few decent tackling midfielders (cattermole being the best in the league at it), but the biggest flaw in his game is temperament and under pressure he can drop clangers. There is no bigger pressure cooker than playing for England.

Huddlestone was the big omission from the squad IMHO

And I'm King Hindsight here, but Huddlestone / Lallana or both nursing the ball in midfield would have been better than that odd formation
Huddlestone lacks pace and gets caught out. He is a very good footballer but isn't a holding midfielder. He deserved a spot on the plane though.
 
If Cattermole can compete with Toure when we play City which I believe he does a cracking job btw, why couldn't he compete with other talented internationals...? He's exactly what England needed last night some one with a bit of leadership and determination. This is what was lacked pretty much throughout the squad that played last night.
 
Cattermole would've probably played a lot better than Gerrard has.

Not as stupid a suggestion as it sounds. How many Uruguay players would get into PL teams? Barely any, yet they are a much much better TEAM at international level.

So many things wrong with the England set up. That was only Sturridges second competitive start for England. The amount of players that get capped through qualification and friendlies is a farce.
 
If Cattermole can compete with Toure when we play City which I believe he does a cracking job btw, why couldn't he compete with other talented internationals...? He's exactly what England needed last night some one with a bit of leadership and determination. This is what was lacked pretty much throughout the squad that played last night.

Everyones exagerrating his flaws, Of course he makes mistakes, Hes dropped clangers at times but to say he couldnt ever play for England because of his first touch (lead by the mistake at Hull) is just ridiculous.

World Cup is a maximum of 7 games, People are going on like he would cost us every time he played which is shite as he doesnt do that at club level, arguably against better players than those of last night, like the Yaya Toure's that you mentioned.

Hes actually better against better opposition aswell, Its when he has to do other things he makes mistakes.
 
He would struggle at International level? He plays against better teams every other week in the PL. Apart from a couple of nations the standard isn't very high at all.
 
He deserves his chance. I thought he would be a better solution than Gerard before the World Cup. Gerard was basically picked because he's a famous player not because he's the best player for the role. In my opinion Cattermole is the best option England have for that role. Gerard is about 10th
 
If we had Mourinho in charge would we have got beat in both games? I'm going to say no, I'm not suggesting he would win us the WC but our players would have a proper system they know and would grind out results where necessary and play in a way best fit to suit the opposition. He's not afraid to drop/sell big players to suit the oppostion or if they don't fit into his way of playing. I think we do have the players to at least have got draws from both games I just think Roy is tactically naieve and came up short when faced with teams we struggled to break down. We made it too easy for the opposition in both games imo.
 
f***ing hell we've hit a new low...

What on earth could Cattermole add to the English National team?

Bite, drive, commitment, leadership, Cruyff turns.

Not that I'm suggesting that he should play for England, but there are worse international players in this WC.
 
Might have crunched Suarez early doors to give him something think about instead of the 'respect' we gave him which came back to bite us!
 
Nah. But if you could transplant his tenacity and strength onto the pace and passing of Jordan Henderson you'd be onto a winner.
 
Regardless of his abilities and form I reckon his reputation means he will never get close to an England squad. He's seen as a walking red card, a leg breaker, a thug and a rubbish footballer, and any manager that picked him would be laughed at I reckon.
 
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