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Brighton, Fulham, Bournemouth, Brentford

Isn't that the stadium capacity though?
Yes, and if they had the capacity I bet they could double that. Amazing what they have done since nearly dropping out the league. I was at Croft Park the night Blyth knocked them out the cup - I think they were then bottom of League Two. All the TV money has actually made the PL a level playing field for the majority of clubs. Apart from the really big clubs who are able to tap into match day revenue- not as in the old days of eighty or ninety pence admission but rather corporate stuff, wining and dining, merchandise etc - and with football appealing to the middle classes, ridiculously expensive season tickets.
 

That’s the dream. We’ll never break into the top 6, except maybe a freak season once a century.
Of course we can. We cant do it by “buying” our way into the top six, but a few more years of “the model” and Premier money could, with the right investment, have us as a regular top six. Any team could do it.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, look at Utd and Spurs. Sustainability has to be the focus.
 
The problem with football now it's about the size of your owners bank balance and nothing else. Sadly, the likes of us are addicted to the sport otherwise we'd probably not bother with it!

It could be argued that the likes of Sunderland and Leeds should be mid prem minimum due to our footballing pedigree.

I'm not particularly a fan of the 4 clubs listed - all there because of having billionaires as owners. When Leeds had their most recent top flight stint they 'only' had a millionaire owner, hence couldn't compete with them.
 
Of course we can. We cant do it by “buying” our way into the top six, but a few more years of “the model” and Premier money could, with the right investment, have us as a regular top six. Any team could do it.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, look at Utd and Spurs. Sustainability has to be the focus.

I respectfully disagree. How many “regular top 6” teams have there been since 92?
 
I respectfully disagree. How many “regular top 6” teams have there been since 92?
Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal
Aston Villa
Newcastle
Spurs
Everton
Leeds
Leicester (not for long but they won the thing)
Even teams like Forest, Ipswich and Norwich.

Now we have the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford challenging.

The defeatist attitude from some of our support is shocking.
We're just little old Sunderland you know.
 
Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal
Aston Villa
Newcastle
Spurs
Everton
Leeds
Leicester (not for long but they won the thing)
Even teams like Forest, Ipswich and Norwich.

Now we have the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford challenging.

The defeatist attitude from some of our support is shocking.
We're just little old Sunderland you know.

Forest, Ipswich & Norwich have done it once. Leicester 3. Everton & Leeds 7.

We’ve never done it and we’re miles away from it. If we got some ambitious investors in then things could be quickly change, but we’ll be a yo-yo club under the current regime.
 
Considering how we've performed for the last 25-30 years, comfortable mid table in the Prem would be a massive achievement
You're right. Looking at our finishing positions and league status since we were first relegated to the second tier in 57/58 the 07/08 to 15/16 was the longest period we stayed in the top flight where we managed to finish 10th one then never above 13th.
 
Forest, Ipswich & Norwich have done it once. Leicester 3. Everton & Leeds 7.

We’ve never done it and we’re miles away from it. If we got some ambitious investors in then things could be quickly change, but we’ll be a yo-yo club under the current regime.
And Southampton in 2016
 
The topic was teams who’ve been in the top 6 regularly. I wouldn’t say anything less than 10 is regular personally, but certainly not teams who’ve done it once.
I know, me and @Binxy are just now naming clubs which have finished in the top 6 since 92.
Wimbledon?
Shef Wed?
Last time we finished in the top 6 was 1955. I'll look tonight to see how many teams have finished top 6 since. Must be over 30.
 
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Forest, Ipswich & Norwich have done it once. Leicester 3. Everton & Leeds 7.

We’ve never done it and we’re miles away from it. If we got some ambitious investors in then things could be quickly change, but we’ll be a yo-yo club under the current regime.
Disagree, they won't fund the first yo so unlikely to yo yo 😒
 
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