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Brighton, Fulham, Bournemouth, Brentford


Waverley said:
There is a London and surrounding effect that has been increasingly prominent in English football in the last decade or so.

I don't pretend to understand why but it is clearly the case that the top division has made a big move south and east. It's not just us. Manchester and Liverpool are the outliers. The traditional heartlands of the English football league have been left behind.

The clubs mentioned in the OP have caught a wave.
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Aye. Unfortunately the super rich want their playthings as near to London as possible.

Though the Brighton owners a local lad and lifelong fan so I don’t begrudge him owt at all.
I believe the Brentford feller is a lifelong fan anarl so fair play to him if so.


QPR had a bunch of eejits try it.
There’s yanks still at Palace.
The Fulham feller almost bought Wembley, is still interested and if he gets it then the new stand at Fulham could be converted into flats a lot easier than the 1930s one at Highbury was. Fulham could even move to SB if Chelsea move to Earls Court even though I can’t see either happening.
WHUs future could be interesting cos their remaining porn rich guy isn’t getting any younger.
Charlton, Millwall and Reading are surely a more enticing prospect than Bournemouth?
Wimbledon, Gillingham, Southend and Colchester all have bigger catchment areas than Bournemouth.
Oxford and Cambridge have initial eye catching appeal.
Wycombe are no more outlandish than Bournemouth were as a PL club.
Luton have their new stadium sorted but imho got a bit overconfident thinking we’ve finally arrived at the peak following their big climb from non league.

Watford are a weird one. Huge catchment area but no more fan interest after the post Italia90/PL formation football boom than before. If Chelsea move to Wembley temporarily they’ll miss out on a bunch of kids. If the Fulham feller buys Wembley they’ll miss out on a shitload more. Theyre still part of the Udinese ownership group which is weird in itself as surely an ownership group thing needs a big club focal point and a bunch of yo-yo clubs in other countries? To me they’re just shuffling players around with no end product apart from washing their faces. Maybe they’re just waiting for the right big boy to become available?
Ned Land said:
Over what time span?

Wiki:

All-time recordSunderland: 64
Draw: 37
Middlesbrough: 54
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I meant to say in my fan time. 68 onwards.
viccarlton said:
How about Leicester , they won the Premier League 9/10 years ago, their renaissance didn’t last long did it.
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Helicopter crash did for their hopes n dreams. The family aren’t as interested in football as the dad was. They’ll continue yo-yoing as they always did.
 
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Adamoah said:
All clubs outside the big six, now the mags and arguably Everton will always end up in the championship at some point. Strong believer most clubs return to their ‘mean’ over time.
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Not until the TV money goes. Massive London and the South bias in the top flight now. Being a 'big' club barely even matters any more. Look at all the clubs in the title of this thread. They should be league one or league two. Now comfortable premier league
 
Waverley said:
There is a London and surrounding effect that has been increasingly prominent in English football in the last decade or so.

I don't pretend to understand why but it is clearly the case that the top division has made a big move south and east. It's not just us. Manchester and Liverpool are the outliers. The traditional heartlands of the English football league have been left behind.

The clubs mentioned in the OP have caught a wave.
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This, geography sadly plays a huge role and for much longer that a decade quoted above.
 
stan the man said:
Last Saturday the 10 games in the Championship all had double that attendance 😳


Aim low, avoid disappointment 😳
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It’s both cool that a club that’s size is holding its own and playing great football as it shows what can be done with enough money and the right setup. But I don’t think I’ve been in a first team Sunderland crowd that low even at roker park during the lean times.
 
Mackemansj1 said:
It’s both cool that a club that’s size is holding its own and playing great football as it shows what can be done with enough money and the right setup. But I don’t think I’ve been in a first team Sunderland crowd that low even at roker park during the lean times.
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I think the later few years at Roker, low position in the 2nd Division, I think I recall about 10-12 thousand 🤔

*might have been a cold and wet Tuesday night ❄️
 
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