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Brighton, Fulham, Bournemouth, Brentford


Mags spending 450 million to win a trophy shows money is important
However if you are clever and recruit well Brentford ect can be done again in a budget ?
I prefer our model
Recruitment is key and developing young talent
The huge spenders will always have an advantage but you can compete if you have a plan
It’s why their “ victory “ at our place was not the usual devastation
They bought the win and not a level playing field like the 6 in a row
 
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The Fitter said:
Big risk, big reward in their case. I wish it was us, but it could be one day...
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I dint and neither do most of our fanbase
Not really a “ big risk “ either
450 million you give yourself a good chance of winning the 3rd most important domestic trophy ?
No way would they have won a anything without the Saudi Money-70years tells you that
Sadly that’s footy today
 
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The top half are all very good team people can bang on about size of some of them all they want but we’d do very very well to get close to the level of any top half prem team in the near future
 
Adamoah said:
All clubs outside the big six, now the mags and arguably Everton will always end up in the championship at some point. Strong believer most clubs return to their ‘mean’ over time.
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Used to be that every club has/had a PL shelf life. E.g. Wigan, Stoke had decent spells but haven't returned.

But seems that it's now a longer life and leading to a closed shop.

None of the big six have been relegated since City in the early 00s. Everton strangely ever present.

West Ham the longest consecutive stay of the rest (2012). Palace a year behind them.

Then jumps a few years but Brighton, Newcastle, Wolves, all 7 years plus stays.
 
There is a London and surrounding effect that has been increasingly prominent in English football in the last decade or so.

I don't pretend to understand why but it is clearly the case that the top division has made a big move south and east. It's not just us. Manchester and Liverpool are the outliers. The traditional heartlands of the English football league have been left behind.

The clubs mentioned in the OP have caught a wave.
 
MustardAndOnions said:
Frustrating thing is, it just makes no difference, we have no financial advantage from getting 40k, even in the prem
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When the Premier League was formed over 30 years ago, I remember the Wimbledon chairman Sam Hammam saying on sports night, Wimbledon could play on front of 20,000 or nobody at all and it actually wouldn’t really make any difference. And that was then…
 
The Fitter said:
They have indeed for a club like ourselves, but we'll find it tough to attract the players the London clubs can get. Forest spent big after promotion and managed to stay up, but it's the appointment of Nuno that's transformed them and got them playing to the max.
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A good podcast on data. Safc compiled lists of managers with most ‘shock’ results, for future appointments, Nuno topped it!
 
The first season back in the PL would be incredibly difficult but if we can survive, I think we would become established and finish 8th to 17th every season.
 
It’s near enough impossible nowadays, last 6 clubs promoted have gone easily straight back down.

I genuinely think what Forest have done this season is massively under appreciated.

About 3 and half seasons ago they were bottom of the championship now third in the premier league and in the semi final of the FA cup.

They will drop back off and slide down the table next season, it’s inevitable imo

But that should take away what a brilliant season they having this season.

It wouldn’t happen again to a recently promoted club.

Basically championship clubs going up can’t win, don’t spend or spend a little bit you go back down.

Spent a lot like Forest did get to where they are and get criticized for spending too much!
 
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A good podcast on data. Safc compiled lists of managers with most ‘shock’ results, for future appointments, Nuno topped it!
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Never knew that, I just thought he had something special about him when he did well at Wolves!
 
Big Bellyingham said:
Mags spending 450 million to win a trophy shows money is important
However if you are clever and recruit well Brentford ect can be done again in a budget ?
I prefer our model
Recruitment is key and developing young talent
The huge spenders will always have an advantage but you can compete if you have a plan
It’s why their “ victory “ at our place was not the usual devastation
They bought the win and not a level playing field like the 6 in a row
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Us n them is no longer a fair fight. When it was the results in first class competitions were equal I believe. Let’s leave it at that I say. Mind it’s a fair fight with Boro and they’ve a far better record against us than the mags have.
 
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