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Black Lives Matter

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Boo said:
I 'unfriended' someone on Facebook last night who, day by day, had been sending out misinformation about BLM and generally spouting racist bile. I had kept him on for a while, because it was instructive to see what racist wankers were saying, but I reached my limit when he dumbly recounted that old shite about 'Irish slaves'.

The alt-right and their ilk have all guns blazing, right now. I guess that could be a good thing, in so far as it shows that they are worried about the rise of progressive voices.
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I think the worry for me is that the alt-right is generally kept in check, I could be very wrong, as for the "progressive" voices on the other side of the same coin are encouraged.
 
Boo said:
I 'unfriended' someone on Facebook last night who, day by day, had been sending out misinformation about BLM and generally spouting racist bile. I had kept him on for a while, because it was instructive to see what racist wankers were saying, but I reached my limit when he dumbly recounted that old shite about 'Irish slaves'.

The alt-right and their ilk have all guns blazing, right now. I guess that could be a good thing, in so far as it shows that they are worried about the rise of progressive voices.
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Bet that really hurt him mind , unfriending him like that.
 
The fault in the sentence "Black Lives Matter" is that it implies exclusivity. This has encouraged some people to demonstrate that they also matter and that they would like people to know it.

All the sentence required was the addition of a preposition at the end, which whatever some think, flouts no grammatical form that was not debunked over a hundred years ago.
 
Venkman said:
Seen so many people talk about how 'Black Live Matters' is racist. I'm talking simply about the message itself, rather than outrage at the events at protests etc.
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Fair enough but im possibly misinterpreting what you're saying as throwing long-held racism around a bit willy nilly when its pretty complex.

Like it could be possible that some who are upset about a slogan that was originally meant to be targetted towards police have taken it to mean something different.

I mean the whole thing is a bit of a minefield when something originated from black people protesting treatment via American police makes its way to Burnley.
 
rowley2 said:
The fault in the sentence "Black Lives Matter" is that it implies exclusivity. This has encouraged some people to demonstrate that they also matter and that they would like people to know it.

All the sentence required was the addition of a preposition at the end, which whatever some think, flouts no grammatical form that was not debunked over a hundred years ago.
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But when it was originated, it wasn't intended in this manner from what I can gather.

It was a decent summary of what they intended to say to the police, not to other ethnicities.

It appears to have morphed into something different.
 
gavrocks said:
Show me multiple posts on here
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Show me where either of us was talking specifically about the conversation being on here? If you did, you didn't communicate it very clearly. There is a massive thread about the Reading stabbings on the SMB.
 
Coeus said:
But when it was originated, it wasn't intended in this manner from what I can gather.

It was a decent summary of what they intended to say to the police, not to other ethnicities.

It appears to have morphed into something different.
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It has indeed. No sane man would argue with the message behind the slogan.

But the " movement " is, by it's own voiced views, a long way from mainstream politically. If they want the changes they seek, many of which are completely unrelated to race, they should seek a mandate.
 
Coeus said:
Fair enough but im possibly misinterpreting what you're saying as throwing long-held racism around a bit willy nilly when its pretty complex.

Like it could be possible that some who are upset about a slogan that was originally meant to be targetted towards police have taken it to mean something different.

I mean the whole thing is a bit of a minefield when something originated from black people protesting treatment via American police makes its way to Burnley.
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Its just blown up, not helped by the protests inevitably turning violent. Of course my statement isn't a blanket one, more aimed at those who need no excuse and often thinly veiled prejudice is now spilling out.
 
errant said:
the all lives matter statement is at a face value a noble statement, whilst at the same time entirely avoiding the point of why the deaths of black people are an issue above and beyond the normal unlawful killing of any human - the circular nature of all lives matter then justifies the point of BLM.
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BLM had a point held peaceful protests around the world until they were hijacked by left wing groups all the hard work done for nothing and then you had Marcus Rashford undoing all his good work by giving the black fist salute of the terrorist group anc and the black power movement things like this are not wanted by majority of black people
Lexingtongue said:
Show me where either of us was talking specifically about the conversation being on here? If you did, you didn't communicate it very clearly. There is a massive thread about the Reading stabbings on the SMB.
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I usually only use pure football to see any updates on what is going on at the club not to read multiple posts put on here by left wing cranks it's getting more like speakers corner than a football banter page
 
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gavrocks said:
I usually only use pure football to see any updates on what is going on at the club not to read multiple posts put on here by left wing cranks it's getting more like speakers corner than a football banter page
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Can't argue with the bolded bit, but the right are just as prevalent on this board as the left. If not more so.
 
gavrocks said:
BLM had a point held peaceful protests around the world until they were hijacked by left wing groups all the hard work done for nothing and then you had Marcus Rashford undoing all his good work by giving the black fist salute of the terrorist group anc and the black power movement things like this are not wanted by majority of black people
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Did he have to send the lunches back?
 
Venkman said:
Seen so many people talk about how 'Black Live Matters' is racist. I'm talking simply about the message itself, rather than outrage at the events at protests etc.
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There’s a discussion to be had about some of the motives behind certain organisations under the BLM banner, but the phrase and principle of the phrase “Black Lives Matter” really shouldn’t be offensive to anyone.
 
rowley2 said:
The fault in the sentence "Black Lives Matter" is that it implies exclusivity. This has encouraged some people to demonstrate that they also matter and that they would like people to know it.

All the sentence required was the addition of a preposition at the end, which whatever some think, flouts no grammatical form that was not debunked over a hundred years ago.
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No it doesn't.

Nor does 'Age Concern' imply that young people don't matter, nor did 'Clap for Carers' imply that non-carers don't matter, nor does Remembrance Sunday mean that you forget other people who have died outside of military service, nor does Father's Day mean you forget your mother, nor does International Women's Day mean that men don't have rights.

Black Lives Matter. That's all the movement is saying. It can be taken on its own merits, and I can only hazard a guess why some people want to put a 'but...' on the end of it.
 
Lexingtongue said:
Can't argue with the bolded bit, but the right are just as prevalent on this board as the left. If not more so.
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I have been lucky to have visited a few countries around the world had drinks with Asians in Hong Kong Singapore and Thailand white people in Germany Czech Republic Holland black people in Cuba and Toronto and in numerous cities in the UK and never had an issue with anyone i take everyone as I find them there is good and bad in every race but what I can't get away with is left wing people if you don't have their views your a racist
 
JJH said:
Nothing should be done to the pilot or the bloke who paid for it.
We still live in a free country last time I checked.
Poor taste but nothing illegal and a dangerous presidence to set if action is taken against them.
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Agreed. We all know what the connotations were but, in isolation, that slogan surely flouts no laws.
Irresponsible by the pilot, mind. Though he may behave been furloughed and needing the money for all I know.
 
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