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Benitez Future In Doubt Over Failure to Secure Key Signings

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The mags bang on about being a potential giant.

They use gates as a reason but then dont accept West Ham being bigger with the Olympic stadium.

So they talk about how rich they are, but say they are bigger than Stoke whose owners are much richer than Ashley and actually support the club.

Id love to know what makes them deserving of this status when theyve got nothing to back it up.
 
Banks said:
The mags bang on about being a potential giant.

They use gates as a reason but then dont accept West Ham being bigger with the Olympic stadium.

So they talk about how rich they are, but say they are bigger than Stoke whose owners are much richer than Ashley and actually support the club.

Id love to know what makes them deserving of this status when theyve got nothing to back it up.
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Ya divnt understand wor pride and passion
 
Banks said:
The mags bang on about being a potential giant.

They use gates as a reason but then dont accept West Ham being bigger with the Olympic stadium.

So they talk about how rich they are, but say they are bigger than Stoke whose owners are much richer than Ashley and actually support the club.

Id love to know what makes them deserving of this status when theyve got nothing to back it up.
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As me Nanna used to say "empty vessels make the most noise".....:cool:
 
jonny gently said:
You spelt delusion wrong iirc


It's airy fairy land :lol:
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I agree that a lot of fans are living in cloud cuckoo land. It's probably more like ridiculous optimism and unrealistic ambition based on a few good years in the 90s and early 2000s.
Instead of seeing those periods as over achieving in the context of our club a lot of people take is 'our rightful place' and see midtable as poor. Creates unrealistic expectations and pressures at the club. A taste of the good stuff in those periods has made everything else seem sour.
I think wanting the best for your club and having the ambition and dreams is a good thing, though it's sometimes detrimental in the way those hopes and desires are expressed. They manifest themselves more as demands and expectations. No fan surely thinks I'd be happy being steady midtable forever. People call Arsenal fans, but if being top 4 is your standard, you want to improve and mount a title challenge.
Continuous improvement and always striving to be the best you can is a healthy state of mind.
So when Newcastle fans talk about doing well, and wanting to do well, not just survive and make up the numbers that's fine.
The Chronicle is part of the problem though. Driven by desire for web traffic to generate advertising revenue, they really play to the social media sharers. The ones who get excited when Steven Taylor says something slating Sunderland. Its transparent but creates revenue. The Chronicle, Ryder in particular, does nothing but feed the stereotype of the deluded Newcastle fan. He's an absolute joke.
 
What A Waster said:
I agree that a lot of fans are living in cloud cuckoo land. It's probably more like ridiculous optimism and unrealistic ambition based on a few good years in the 90s and early 2000s.
Instead of seeing those periods as over achieving in the context of our club a lot of people take is 'our rightful place' and see midtable as poor. Creates unrealistic expectations and pressures at the club. A taste of the good stuff in those periods has made everything else seem sour.
I think wanting the best for your club and having the ambition and dreams is a good thing, though it's sometimes detrimental in the way those hopes and desires are expressed. They manifest themselves more as demands and expectations. No fan surely thinks I'd be happy being steady midtable forever. People call Arsenal fans, but if being top 4 is your standard, you want to improve and mount a title challenge.
Continuous improvement and always striving to be the best you can is a healthy state of mind.
So when Newcastle fans talk about doing well, and wanting to do well, not just survive and make up the numbers that's fine.
The Chronicle is part of the problem though. Driven by desire for web traffic to generate advertising revenue, they really play to the social media sharers. The ones who get excited when Steven Taylor says something slating Sunderland. Its transparent but creates revenue. The Chronicle, Ryder in particular, does nothing but feed the stereotype of the deluded Newcastle fan. He's an absolute joke.
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Some fair points some ridiculous points.

Problem with your fans is you dont go from yoyo to we want to be Everton.

While its ok to want success 17th should be seen as success for you lot next year. Teams dont just become contenders overnight unless money is thrown at it.

If you stay up then got 11th then 8th. It would be totally understandable but youve just scraped the championship man :lol:
 
I think staying up is the aim this season (probably aiming higher than 17th), I don't think challenging for 8th is the aim this season and I don't know of any Newcastle fans who're expecting that this season.
 
Thewanderer81 said:
Looks like my posts wer deleted zig. Did you report them to the footy board police?
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I don't do that, I got a ban for fuck all, someone posts a name on here (incorrectly may I add and totally against the forum rules) and the usual mod fuckin bans me!

It's a bastard joke this place, got to protect the mags.
 
The Fish said:
I think staying up is the aim this season (probably aiming higher than 17th), I don't think challenging for 8th is the aim this season and I don't know of any Newcastle fans who're expecting that this season.
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So why are many of your fans critcising Ashley?

I think Rafas been backed enough already if the aim is to stay up. Hes spent 35m on top of the 50 last season.

How much do you expect Ashley to give him?
 
Banks said:
So why are many of your fans critcising Ashley?

I think Rafas been backed enough already if the aim is to stay up. Hes spent 35m on top of the 50 last season.

How much do you expect Ashley to give him?
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Benitez has been there little over a year and spent 85 million, he now has a worse squad than when he arrived and rafagated them yet they still love him.:eek:
 
The Fish said:
Not to themselves they don't. Have to share it with Liverpool and Tranmere.

Imagine that, sharing an airport.

Paupers.
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Could be worse ........could live in a fookin coonsel hoose

Binxy said:
Benitez has been there little over a year and spent 85 million, he now has a worse squad than when he arrived and rafagated them yet they still love him.:eek:
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Took him £230m to Fook up the bindippas, so long way to go yet........another werld class chequebook manager
 
reginald_molehusband said:
Friday evening lads, anybody going out or will you be talking about the Mags all night?

Obviously Zig will be nuts deep in all of the Nolan sisters or something. Enjoy.
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Any pics for me yet fat Reg?

You can't help but think of me can you? I'm on your mind constantly, you sad fat fucker.

Friday evening and you're posting on a sunderland forum asking if anyone is going out! You lot really don't get it. :lol::lol:

What A Waster said:
I agree that a lot of fans are living in cloud cuckoo land. It's probably more like ridiculous optimism and unrealistic ambition based on a few good years in the 90s and early 2000s.
Instead of seeing those periods as over achieving in the context of our club a lot of people take is 'our rightful place' and see midtable as poor. Creates unrealistic expectations and pressures at the club. A taste of the good stuff in those periods has made everything else seem sour.
I think wanting the best for your club and having the ambition and dreams is a good thing, though it's sometimes detrimental in the way those hopes and desires are expressed. They manifest themselves more as demands and expectations. No fan surely thinks I'd be happy being steady midtable forever. People call Arsenal fans, but if being top 4 is your standard, you want to improve and mount a title challenge.
Continuous improvement and always striving to be the best you can is a healthy state of mind.
So when Newcastle fans talk about doing well, and wanting to do well, not just survive and make up the numbers that's fine.
The Chronicle is part of the problem though. Driven by desire for web traffic to generate advertising revenue, they really play to the social media sharers. The ones who get excited when Steven Taylor says something slating Sunderland. Its transparent but creates revenue. The Chronicle, Ryder in particular, does nothing but feed the stereotype of the deluded Newcastle fan. He's an absolute joke.
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At least we have one who appears level headed, honest and doesn't try to be a clever fucker, have a like.
 
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Binxy said:
Benitez has been there little over a year and spent 85 million, he now has a worse squad than when he arrived and rafagated them yet they still love him.:eek:
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The Mags would tell you that he had to spend that money on a team to get promoted, now he needs another one to keep them up ...... which is an interesting theory.

Presumably he'll need another one to get them into the top half the season after.

It's 100% certain that the new signings will be what Benitez wanted, if they work out.

It's 101% certain that they will be what Ashley forced on him, if they don't.
 
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