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Ben Duckett - drunk.

chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Getting so drunk I couldn’t get home has happened to me once in my life. Aged 17.

He’s a 31 year old bloke representing his country. It’s baffling.

Stokes is preaching “empathy”. If he has mental health concerns about the lad, then don’t pick him for the MCG. In a series that’s already lost.
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Well exactly same to me think 21st birthday!

Been drunk plenty times since but not to the extent ‘ I am lost and can’t get home’

And he is a professional sportsman on the biggest tour of his life!

I still think the principle of ‘ no fear cricket’ and taking the attack to the opposition rather than been frightened to play shots and having a real togetherness around the team is the right way to approach been a successful team.

But with anything it’s about balance and these lot have got the balance all wrong and it’s coming across now as unprofessional with no accountability, and when you have the supporters who care for the team especially the ones paying a lot of money to travel there.

The ‘ empathy’ that Stokes suggests will be in short supply and rightly soo.
 
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smoker said:
I wasn't as drunk as Duckett on my stag night (also 31). Most people only get blind drunk once and learn their lesson. Not this lad though.

If there is substance to claims of several players on the drink for six straight nights he should be sacked. Given the performances in the first two tests, and question marks about the mid-series break in that context, the least they should have done is keep their heads down.

Imagine bring a fan, paying five to ten grand to travel to Australia, and the players carry on like this and we are told to show some empathy. Arrogant fuckwits.
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I won't begrudge Australia the 5-0 to completely show them up not for personal reasons or even the disappointment of their lack of competitiveness, but disrespecting Test Cricket itself imo.

I think more hard-line coach like JL might help Stokes get his message across and people can change, plus their is no obvious replacement ;)
 
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chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Getting so drunk I couldn’t get home has happened to me once in my life. Aged 17.

He’s a 31 year old bloke representing his country. It’s baffling.

Stokes is preaching “empathy”. If he has mental health concerns about the lad, then don’t pick him for the MCG. In a series that’s already lost.
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Stokes can’t stand any form of criticism, asking for “ empathy” and earlier angrily reacting by calling former greats as “has-beens”. It’s alright taking plaudits when things are going well, but they’ve been dreadful and indisciplined and all the stick is fully justified.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
If there’s one series that genuinely really matters to English cricket and the cricketing public and makes heroes out of players it’s an Australia tour. Be absolutely professional for six to eight weeks once every four years and leave no stone unturned. Work harder than you normally would, prepare better than you normally would, be more mindful of your surroundings than you normally would.

And aside from that, if can’t go to Australia and enjoy what it has to offer for six weeks without getting absolutely mortal then there’s something seriously wrong.

For a side that ultimately set out to win hearts and minds and ‘save’ test cricket, they’ve done an absolutely impeccable job of making nearly everyone dislike them. It’s quite the achievement.
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A blow out for a day or 2 at the end of the series would be no issues. If they wen't 3 nil up to win the Ashes then most people would have no issues either. Even at this stage with the series dead and burried at 3-0 down a lot of people wouldn't mind.

It's just inexcusable at 2-0 down. It's at this point where you need strong characters to show fight and determination to knuckle down and try to turn the series around. I like Duckett as a cricketer, but even without this controversy he has been England's most disappointing player.
 
Now the Ashes have been lost there's obviously a huge part of me that wants us to finally win a test, maybe even 2 if we're lucky, but then also another part of me that thinks maybe 4 or 5 nil will be 'better' so any win doesn't paper over the cracks :confused:

Regardless of what Tuffers says about not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, we need a whole regime change from top to bottom, starting with Key, a culture change, and to be more professional in every aspect
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
If there’s one series that genuinely really matters to English cricket and the cricketing public and makes heroes out of players it’s an Australia tour. Be absolutely professional for six to eight weeks once every four years and leave no stone unturned. Work harder than you normally would, prepare better than you normally would, be more mindful of your surroundings than you normally would.

And aside from that, if can’t go to Australia and enjoy what it has to offer for six weeks without getting absolutely mortal then there’s something seriously wrong.

For a side that ultimately set out to win hearts and minds and ‘save’ test cricket, they’ve done an absolutely impeccable job of making nearly everyone dislike them. It’s quite the achievement.
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You're absolutely right. Quite a fall from grace for a lot of them.

I don't really care what happens tonight in the dead rubber. I'll watch it but its not the same.

I fully expect us to turn up actually. Now that the pressure of the series is gone.
 
Why sack Durban said:
I think that’s tone deaf from Stokes and followed up by Vaughan. The message we are being given is that we have to accept unprofessional behaviour and we don’t understand the pressure . And Vaughan did it when he was a player so that’s ok . Stokes brings everything back to him and his context . They are so self obsessed . I find the whole group really hard to like . Is it so difficult to be professional for a short period of time .
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Aye I’m not a massive fan of most of the team tbh. I adore Root mind.

The rest of them I either disike because they are shit and have been given far too many chances (Crawley and Pope) or they have made themselves unlikeable by the way they carry on (Brook, Duckett etc…)

Dread to think where this team would be without Root tbh. Feel sorry for the bloke having to share a dressing room with these clowns.
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Getting so drunk I couldn’t get home has happened to me once in my life. Aged 17.

He’s a 31 year old bloke representing his country. It’s baffling.

Stokes is preaching “empathy”. If he has mental health concerns about the lad, then don’t pick him for the MCG. In a series that’s already lost.
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It's just another tone deaf response from the camp. Duckett has gone out, got pissed out of his mind and been caught doing so mid series, when we are 2-0 down. Stokes is going on as if the lad did it in response to some personal trauma. I get he is trying to to protect him but why on earth does his situation demand empathy?
 
Stokes can hardly instil discipline surely he’s had one of the most chequered past of any England player. The Bristol incident cost him an ashes but he probably did well to come out of it as he did, and he was also sent home from an England A tour at the start of his career.

In comparison Duckett’s behaviour whilst massively ill advised surely isn’t that bad, it was during a scheduled break during a large gap between tests.
 
The Breen Machine said:
It's just another tone deaf response from the camp. Duckett has gone out, got pissed out of his mind and been caught doing so mid series, when we are 2-0 down. Stokes is going on as if the lad did it in response to some personal trauma. I get he is trying to to protect him but why on earth does his situation demand empathy?
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It was another really odd utterance from.this group.

THe whole protecting him thing as well, I am not having that either. He should have been suspended not protected but there are no standards of conduct here.

As the series was lost and Duckett is a non contributor it wouldn't even have cost them anything to take him out.

Anything goes.
 
Southern Monkey said:
Stokes can hardly instil discipline surely he’s had one of the most chequered past of any England player. The Bristol incident cost him an ashes but he probably did well to come out of it as he did, and he was also sent home from an England A tour at the start of his career.

In comparison Duckett’s behaviour whilst massively ill advised surely isn’t that bad, it was during a scheduled break during a large gap between tests.
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The funny thing here is that if we were winning the series 3-0 then we'd all be calling them 'characters' or something similar. As it is, they aren't the players they think they are to fuck about and win matches
 
Waverley said:
It was another really odd utterance from.this group.

THe whole protecting him thing as well, I am not having that either. He should have been suspended not protected but there are no standards of conduct here.

As the series was lost and Duckett is a non contributor it wouldn't even have cost them anything to take him out.

Anything goes.
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If he needs protecting then he gets all the sympathy in the world.

But they haven’t taken him out of the spotlight and sent him home. So they’re not arsed about protecting him
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
If he needs protecting then he gets all the sympathy in the world.

But they haven’t taken him out of the spotlight and sent him home. So they’re not arsed about protecting him
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I suspect they were hoping he would make a big headline-grabbing statement innings. Preferably a hundred. They like making a big brash statement as a big F you to anyone who criticises them. But if that's your strategy, you have to be able to pull it off.

The couple of 30s he's got since you posted this aren't cutting it. So now they just look indecisive and out of ideas. They also had nobody to replace him with, thanks to the appalling squad selection.
 
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