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Don't sign him to a one year rolling contract and hope his lass doesn't move somewhere else.
 

Yahrba said:
He's walked off into the wilderness with a big bag of money . Man has no desire for legacy or fame which is endearing in some ways but not what you want in a long term manager . A football gypsy re tarmacing squads for cash in hand .
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The idea of a “long term manager” in Championship football is laughable, the latest figures that I’ve seen (2019-20) indicates that the average tenure is one year plus one week and one day. Even in the Premier League, the average length of stay is just over two years.

Football managers work under the constant threat of dismissal. They come and they go. The difference in the Alex Neil situation is that he has dictated the date of his departure, rather than the board. This doesn’t meet with the fans’ approval because Neil has been very successful in a short period of time. And after the last four-five years we have been desperate for some success.

Football managers aren’t really interested in the passion of the fans. They regularly say how wonderful we are and walk to the away end to applaud us, but, in truth, they are not one of us. They tickle our tummies, because it costs nothing to do so and delays the process of us becoming a baying mob calling for their dismissal.

However, they necessarily have to retain a sense of detachment, because they know that half a dozen bad results in a row could see them clearing out their locker on a Monday morning.

Football managers’ desire for success is driven not only by the prospect of the photos with a trophy, but because success looks good on their CVs.

We are surprised and disappointed that Neil has ‘jumped ship’ to join Stoke City, a club that we consider to be somewhat ‘lesser’ than SAFC. We wonder why Neil has rejected the better potential of the perceived ‘bigger’ club. I think it is because Neil has calculated that he might very likely be dismissed before any potential is fully realised. Therefore he needs to pick up the larger pay packets and bank them while he can. If Rochdale had come knocking and offered him a guaranteed £5m over three years, he’d of been off
 
Firstly, may I offer my commiserations to you folks, losing a valued and much loved player or manager, especially in the way you have, is a difficult pill to swallow.

We all see things through a particular lense… I can see you all rightly finding a narrative that paints AN as greedy and disloyal and losing professional credibility…

I can see it from here as a job where he will have more backing, good and local owners, probably a better squad (not that you could tell last week!) but I think it’s fair to say that it’s true on paper, and that the geography might work for him.

The reality probably lies somewhere in between I guess.

One thing that many stoke supporters were saying last week was that the biggest difference on the day was the managers. You came out and worked harder, wanted it more and AN changed the game when he needed to. You were miles better in every department.

For those reasons, you could have had Reg Holsworth pulling the strings and we would have found our own narrative of why this was a good and astute appointment.

I sincerely hope this becomes a moment when you look back and good has come of it… a new manager, a good manager, a realisation from the board that more needs to be done behind the scenes… who knows.

Footballs a funny old game, ask any Luton fan after we stoke Nathan Jones.

And we might be finding a sweet irony in the memories of ‘all our sh1t players, we send them to Stoke’ and then all that has transpired… but nothing would surprise me with Stoke… we could tear up the league or on March the 4th you could be plunging is further into the dreaded bottom three.

Good luck for the rest of the season
 
erasureman said:
Firstly, may I offer my commiserations to you folks, losing a valued and much loved player or manager, especially in the way you have, is a difficult pill to swallow.

We all see things through a particular lense… I can see you all rightly finding a narrative that paints AN as greedy and disloyal and losing professional credibility…

I can see it from here as a job where he will have more backing, good and local owners, probably a better squad (not that you could tell last week!) but I think it’s fair to say that it’s true on paper, and that the geography might work for him.

The reality probably lies somewhere in between I guess.

One thing that many stoke supporters were saying last week was that the biggest difference on the day was the managers. You came out and worked harder, wanted it more and AN changed the game when he needed to. You were miles better in every department.

For those reasons, you could have had Reg Holsworth pulling the strings and we would have found our own narrative of why this was a good and astute appointment.

I sincerely hope this becomes a moment when you look back and good has come of it… a new manager, a good manager, a realisation from the board that more needs to be done behind the scenes… who knows.

Footballs a funny old game, ask any Luton fan after we stoke Nathan Jones.

And we might be finding a sweet irony in the memories of ‘all our sh1t players, we send them to Stoke’ and then all that has transpired… but nothing would surprise me with Stoke… we could tear up the league or on March the 4th you could be plunging is further into the dreaded bottom three.

Good luck for the rest of the season
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Interesting comment re: Nathan Jones. Sometimes a manager suits one club not another. You never know.
 
If he done it to us he will do it again I'd be wary and if he does get into premier league he's a disaster ,so he'll be gone by Dec 23
 
erasureman said:
Firstly, may I offer my commiserations to you folks, losing a valued and much loved player or manager, especially in the way you have, is a difficult pill to swallow.

We all see things through a particular lense… I can see you all rightly finding a narrative that paints AN as greedy and disloyal and losing professional credibility…

I can see it from here as a job where he will have more backing, good and local owners, probably a better squad (not that you could tell last week!) but I think it’s fair to say that it’s true on paper, and that the geography might work for him.

The reality probably lies somewhere in between I guess.

One thing that many stoke supporters were saying last week was that the biggest difference on the day was the managers. You came out and worked harder, wanted it more and AN changed the game when he needed to. You were miles better in every department.

For those reasons, you could have had Reg Holsworth pulling the strings and we would have found our own narrative of why this was a good and astute appointment.

I sincerely hope this becomes a moment when you look back and good has come of it… a new manager, a good manager, a realisation from the board that more needs to be done behind the scenes… who knows.

Footballs a funny old game, ask any Luton fan after we stoke Nathan Jones.

And we might be finding a sweet irony in the memories of ‘all our sh1t players, we send them to Stoke’ and then all that has transpired… but nothing would surprise me with Stoke… we could tear up the league or on March the 4th you could be plunging is further into the dreaded bottom three.

Good luck for the rest of the season
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I look forward to the baldy bastard getting the sack after we tonk you next year.
 
erasureman said:
Firstly, may I offer my commiserations to you folks, losing a valued and much loved player or manager, especially in the way you have, is a difficult pill to swallow.

We all see things through a particular lense… I can see you all rightly finding a narrative that paints AN as greedy and disloyal and losing professional credibility…

I can see it from here as a job where he will have more backing, good and local owners, probably a better squad (not that you could tell last week!) but I think it’s fair to say that it’s true on paper, and that the geography might work for him.

The reality probably lies somewhere in between I guess.

One thing that many stoke supporters were saying last week was that the biggest difference on the day was the managers. You came out and worked harder, wanted it more and AN changed the game when he needed to. You were miles better in every department.

For those reasons, you could have had Reg Holsworth pulling the strings and we would have found our own narrative of why this was a good and astute appointment.

I sincerely hope this becomes a moment when you look back and good has come of it… a new manager, a good manager, a realisation from the board that more needs to be done behind the scenes… who knows.

Footballs a funny old game, ask any Luton fan after we stoke Nathan Jones.

And we might be finding a sweet irony in the memories of ‘all our sh1t players, we send them to Stoke’ and then all that has transpired… but nothing would surprise me with Stoke… we could tear up the league or on March the 4th you could be plunging is further into the dreaded bottom three.

Good luck for the rest of the season
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The feeling is still very raw and I’m massively disappointed Neil left.

For me he had the makings of the best manager we’ve had at the club for years.

I think he could have you challenging for the playoffs this season.

As for SAFC the next appointment will be crucial and I’ve no confidence whatsoever that it’ll be the right one…. and every confidence it will be the cheapest!
 
erasureman said:
Firstly, may I offer my commiserations to you folks, losing a valued and much loved player or manager, especially in the way you have, is a difficult pill to swallow.

We all see things through a particular lense… I can see you all rightly finding a narrative that paints AN as greedy and disloyal and losing professional credibility…

I can see it from here as a job where he will have more backing, good and local owners, probably a better squad (not that you could tell last week!) but I think it’s fair to say that it’s true on paper, and that the geography might work for him.

The reality probably lies somewhere in between I guess.

One thing that many stoke supporters were saying last week was that the biggest difference on the day was the managers. You came out and worked harder, wanted it more and AN changed the game when he needed to. You were miles better in every department.

For those reasons, you could have had Reg Holsworth pulling the strings and we would have found our own narrative of why this was a good and astute appointment.

I sincerely hope this becomes a moment when you look back and good has come of it… a new manager, a good manager, a realisation from the board that more needs to be done behind the scenes… who knows.

Footballs a funny old game, ask any Luton fan after we stoke Nathan Jones.

And we might be finding a sweet irony in the memories of ‘all our sh1t players, we send them to Stoke’ and then all that has transpired… but nothing would surprise me with Stoke… we could tear up the league or on March the 4th you could be plunging is further into the dreaded bottom three.

Good luck for the rest of the season
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No idea where you get the rhetoric that he hasn’t been backed from. We’re the 3rd top spenders in the division thus far. We have a model to protect us from the mistakes of overspending whcih landed us in league one for 4 long years.

This is all just one massive excuse from Neil to save face with the fans whilst he leaves for a bigger wage packet closer to home. Irony is that everyone would accept if he just said he wanted to be closer to home and got a better deal. Don’t try and throw our club under the bus to save your own reputation though. That doesn’t sit well at all.

Truth is there is no footballing reason to take the Stoke job. We are 16 places above you, younger, hungrier squad, best striker in the league and a lot of momentum.
 
erasureman said:
Firstly, may I offer my commiserations to you folks, losing a valued and much loved player or manager, especially in the way you have, is a difficult pill to swallow.

We all see things through a particular lense… I can see you all rightly finding a narrative that paints AN as greedy and disloyal and losing professional credibility…

I can see it from here as a job where he will have more backing, good and local owners, probably a better squad (not that you could tell last week!) but I think it’s fair to say that it’s true on paper, and that the geography might work for him.

The reality probably lies somewhere in between I guess.

One thing that many stoke supporters were saying last week was that the biggest difference on the day was the managers. You came out and worked harder, wanted it more and AN changed the game when he needed to. You were miles better in every department.

For those reasons, you could have had Reg Holsworth pulling the strings and we would have found our own narrative of why this was a good and astute appointment.

I sincerely hope this becomes a moment when you look back and good has come of it… a new manager, a good manager, a realisation from the board that more needs to be done behind the scenes… who knows.

Footballs a funny old game, ask any Luton fan after we stoke Nathan Jones.

And we might be finding a sweet irony in the memories of ‘all our sh1t players, we send them to Stoke’ and then all that has transpired… but nothing would surprise me with Stoke… we could tear up the league or on March the 4th you could be plunging is further into the dreaded bottom three.

Good luck for the rest of the season
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How are your owners good? You aren't exactly pulling up trees
 
Hope you go down. Hope you never recover. Hope you can't sign a player ever again thanks to FFP. Stoke have been added to Newcastle and Coventry on the list of clubs I'd laugh my tits off at if they went bust.
 
can see it from here as a job where he will have more backing, good and local owners, probably a better squad (not that you could tell last week!) but I think it’s fair to say that it’s true on paper, and that the geography might work for him.

None of which is true.
 
Alfa said:
The feeling is still very raw and I’m massively disappointed Neil left.

For me he had the makings of the best manager we’ve had at the club for years.

I think he could have you challenging for the playoffs this season.

As for SAFC the next appointment will be crucial and I’ve no confidence whatsoever that it’ll be the right one…. and every confidence it will be the cheapest!
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I bet that’s what you thought last time ?
 
I'm just waiting for an announcement from either club so i know who to blame for spoiling my matchday experience before i've even got there.

Three points would help, but i'm not optimistic.
 
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