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Anything less than a win at the weekend is unacceptable

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Morny said:
Not sure where this notion our quality isn't too bad has come from. Our squad in rancid, absolute filth.

All of our full backs are shite. All of our centre backs are shite, except maybe O'Shea who's a smidge better than shite.

We have a collection of lower level midfielders (Larsson, Gomez and Rodwell). Mvila might be better if he continues in this vein. Of our other midfielders, Cattermole looks shot and Toivonen, so far looks more like a (very poor, slow and immobile) targetman.

Up front, our best goalscorer doesn't fit into our system, is 102 and long past his best. Our reserves centre forwards are proven shite. Johnson is canny when motivated but he's got shit going on. Lens looks average so far, and lazy. And Borini has to play out wide as he's the only one who'll help his full back.

Our squad quality is dire, and the balance of it is dire.

With the squad we have, we wouldn't get in the play offs in the Championship. We're f***ing awful man.
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Absolutely spot on.
 
jsdftm04 said:
I absolutely agree with the last paragraph. It makes very little sense.

*passes the tin hat*
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Wins or Sack him for me. It's the manner of the defeats that's got me concerned. We've seen one game all season where I thought we were unlucky, every other game we've been picked apart with ease.
 
Morny said:
Not sure where this notion our quality isn't too bad has come from. Our squad in rancid, absolute filth.

All of our full backs are shite. All of our centre backs are shite, except maybe O'Shea who's a smidge better than shite.

We have a collection of lower level midfielders (Larsson, Gomez and Rodwell). Mvila might be better if he continues in this vein. Of our other midfielders, Cattermole looks shot and Toivonen, so far looks more like a (very poor, slow and immobile) targetman.

Up front, our best goalscorer doesn't fit into our system, is 102 and long past his best. Our reserves centre forwards are proven shite. Johnson is canny when motivated but he's got shit going on. Lens looks average so far, and lazy. And Borini has to play out wide as he's the only one who'll help his full back.

Our squad quality is dire, and the balance of it is dire.

With the squad we have, we wouldn't get in the play offs in the Championship. We're f***ing awful man.
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You're mixing up temporary work rate with quality.

You could go through quite a few teams and look at their players and go "he is absolutely shit (on paper)" yet when they try hard and manage to scrape a win no one says anything.
 
Tadger said:
Sorry like but I can't agree with this.

We need a win from somewhere, the performance is irrelevant at this stage.[/QUOTE
I think the Chinese have a saying along the lines of a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, well our lot have been running backwards so far this season, a decent performance would at least be a step forward, love to see a win though
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Fully expect us to start well but fail to score when we're on top. West Ham to score mid way through the first half and we cave. 2 or 3 nil in the end. Hope I'm wrong :(
 
maghater said:
I think the most important thing is a performance, West Ham are flying away from home and we are leaking goals for fun. Draw is probably the best we can hope for, but a battling defeat wouldn't be the end of the world providing we build on it. I don't accept relegation is a done thing, we don't have a great squad, but there are more than three poorer teams in the division.
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the most important thing is 3points fuck the performance
 
Cack Stottie said:
I've already accepted we're probably going to be relegated but losing at the weekend, at home with our backs to the wall, will confirm to me we're all but doomed and the trend of losing has no chance of stopping.

If we lose, Advocaat has to go. What's the point in him being there? If the writing is on the wall that we're going down, we may aswell plan ahead. He won't be here in the summer.
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Which it isn't, even if we lose. One thing us Sunderland fans must have learned by now is that it ain't over till it's over.
 
Cack Stottie said:
I've already accepted we're probably going to be relegated but losing at the weekend, at home with our backs to the wall, will confirm to me we're all but doomed and the trend of losing has no chance of stopping.

If we lose, Advocaat has to go. What's the point in him being there? If the writing is on the wall that we're going down, we may aswell plan ahead. He won't be here in the summer.
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Disagree. Losing at the weekend confirms nothing (other than we are rubbish) and there are still 30 games and 90 points to play for. I see no sense in sacking the manager before he's had time to get his team to gel

Last 9 seasons after 8 games:

2007 – 8 points/15th
2008 – 9 points/12th
2009 – 13 points/8th
2010 – 9 points/13th
2011 – 6 points/17th
2012 – 9 points/14th
2013 – 1 points/20th
2014 – 8 points/17th
2015 - ???

We’ve been in worse positions and survived (only just like!) and I feel more confident in the quality of the squad than I have for the last 3 seasons
 
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Morny said:
Not sure where this notion our quality isn't too bad has come from. Our squad in rancid, absolute filth.

All of our full backs are shite. All of our centre backs are shite, except maybe O'Shea who's a smidge better than shite.

We have a collection of lower level midfielders (Larsson, Gomez and Rodwell). Mvila might be better if he continues in this vein. Of our other midfielders, Cattermole looks shot and Toivonen, so far looks more like a (very poor, slow and immobile) targetman.

Up front, our best goalscorer doesn't fit into our system, is 102 and long past his best. Our reserves centre forwards are proven shite. Johnson is canny when motivated but he's got shit going on. Lens looks average so far, and lazy. And Borini has to play out wide as he's the only one who'll help his full back.

Our squad quality is dire, and the balance of it is dire.

With the squad we have, we wouldn't get in the play offs in the Championship. We're f***ing awful man.
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Worryingly can't argue with much of this :(
 
TopCat said:
Disagree. Losing at the weekend confirms nothing (other than we are rubbish) and there are still 30 games and 90 points to play for. I see no sense in sacking the manager before he's had time to get his team to gel

Last 9 seasons after 8 games:

2007 – 8 points/15th
2008 – 9 points/12th
2009 – 13 points/8th
2010 – 9 points/13th
2011 – 6 points/17th
2012 – 9 points/14th
2013 – 1 points/20th
2014 – 8 points/17th
2015 - ???

We’ve been in worse positions and survived (only just like!) and I feel more confident in the quality of the squad than I have for the last 3 seasons
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I feel more confident with the team but not with the tactics we are left far to open and he doesn't seem to be changing this
 
im expecting another spineless defeat, dick resigns sat night, big sam in on Monday, then big sam sacked early march and some miracle worker to walk though the door for the final 6 matches and survive by goal difference.
this similar process will be repeated for the following 10 seasons...
 
Fletch said:
im expecting another spineless defeat, dick resigns sat night, big sam in on Monday, then big sam sacked early march and some miracle worker to walk though the door for the final 6 matches and survive by goal difference.
this similar process will be repeated for the following 10 seasons...
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Only 10?:eek:
 
Morny said:
Not sure where this notion our quality isn't too bad has come from. Our squad in rancid, absolute filth.

All of our full backs are shite. All of our centre backs are shite, except maybe O'Shea who's a smidge better than shite.

We have a collection of lower level midfielders (Larsson, Gomez and Rodwell). Mvila might be better if he continues in this vein. Of our other midfielders, Cattermole looks shot and Toivonen, so far looks more like a (very poor, slow and immobile) targetman.

Up front, our best goalscorer doesn't fit into our system, is 102 and long past his best. Our reserves centre forwards are proven shite. Johnson is canny when motivated but he's got shit going on. Lens looks average so far, and lazy. And Borini has to play out wide as he's the only one who'll help his full back.

Our squad quality is dire, and the balance of it is dire.

With the squad we have, we wouldn't get in the play offs in the Championship. We're f***ing awful man.
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The most accurate assessment of our plight so far , desperately dissappointing but entirely true.
 
Morny said:
Not sure where this notion our quality isn't too bad has come from. Our squad in rancid, absolute filth.

All of our full backs are shite. All of our centre backs are shite, except maybe O'Shea who's a smidge better than shite.

We have a collection of lower level midfielders (Larsson, Gomez and Rodwell). Mvila might be better if he continues in this vein. Of our other midfielders, Cattermole looks shot and Toivonen, so far looks more like a (very poor, slow and immobile) targetman.

Up front, our best goalscorer doesn't fit into our system, is 102 and long past his best. Our reserves centre forwards are proven shite. Johnson is canny when motivated but he's got shit going on. Lens looks average so far, and lazy. And Borini has to play out wide as he's the only one who'll help his full back.

Our squad quality is dire, and the balance of it is dire.

With the squad we have, we wouldn't get in the play offs in the Championship. We're f***ing awful man.
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Spot on. There's a reason why we got dicked at home by Norwich, rolled over at Bournemouth and got hammered at Leicester. We're shite.
 
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