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Another student murder


bomber said:
Legal crack and heroin 🤔 Not sure that wad work.Aldi and Lidl wad need the SAS on the doors.
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Especially if they were selling it.
I think they need them on the door now. I noticed the other day small pieces of meat in a supermarket had security tags on them. Fish was stupidly expensive as well.
Food shouldnt cost so much that it becomes a valuable item. Like something in a jewellery shop or electronics store. A sign of these ridiculous times we live in I suppose.
 
Visiting owl said:
So why does most of the world not apply these laws, in your opinion?
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Big chunks of the USA have legalised hash .
There was a pilot a few years ago in a U.K. city where they opened drug units where they gave morphine to be used on site to addicts . Crime plummeted, overdoses dropped but it was stopped because of political pressure. £1.39 per fix ( according to the BNF) where as the crime associated could be hundreds of pounds per fix. I think it’s a no brainer personally
 
cornish mackem said:
Big chunks of the USA have legalised hash .
There was a pilot a few years ago in a U.K. city where they opened drug units where they gave morphine to be used on site to addicts . Crime plummeted, overdoses dropped but it was stopped because of political pressure. £1.39 per fix ( according to the BNF) where as the crime associated could be hundreds of pounds per fix. I think it’s a no brainer personally
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I have to disagree, I think it would be a catastrophic idea.

Weed, maybe at a push, but Heroin, Meth, Fetanol etc....in my opinion would just lead to more public consumption.
 
tysonstorm said:
Interesting to see the progressives vilifying the swivel-eyed loons for political point-scoring over a murder, only to immediately turn around and do the exact same thing themselves.

All this does is prove that neither side actually cares about the victims you all just see these tragedies as cheap ammunition for your tribal point-scoring. Well done.
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It highlights how things are in politics and society. Complete division and it’s depressing.
 
cornish mackem said:
If you offered it free in a safe setting as opposed to some alleyway or doss house ? It’s about control and removing the criminality.
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But you just know people will take advantage
Like I said earlier, if it was such a good idea then why doesn't most of the world implement it.

I see Portland have tried it......no surprise there, however.....

Portland no longer has the highly relaxed drug laws it was once known for. While the city previously made national headlines for experimenting with complete decriminalization of hard drugs, Oregon has since rolled back these policies, restoring criminal penalties for drug possession.
 
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John Steed said:
Especially if they were selling it.
I think they need them on the door now. I noticed the other day small pieces of meat in a supermarket had security tags on them. Fish was stupidly expensive as well.
Food shouldnt cost so much that it becomes a valuable item. Like something in a jewellery shop or electronics store. A sign of these ridiculous times we live in I suppose.
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Fish is stupidly expensive, as there are only a small fraction of them left in the sea. Supply and demand and all that jazz.
 
John Steed said:
We're an island surrounded by water. Fish shouldn't be expensive in fact no staple food should be.
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You can't magic up fish that aren't there.

"North Sea fish stocks face a mixed reality, with flatfish populations like plaice remaining stable or healthy, while heavily targeted whitefish stocks—most notably cod—remain at critically low levels and are actively overexploited."

"Nearly half of the UK's top commercial fish stocks are critically low or overexploited. Despite scientific warnings for sustainable catch limits, political negotiations frequently permit fishing above recommended levels."
 
Visiting owl said:
But you just know people will take advantage
Like I said earlier, if it was such a good idea then why doesn't most of the world implement it.

I see Portland have tried it......no surprise there, however.....

Portland no longer has the highly relaxed drug laws it was once known for. While the city previously made national headlines for experimenting with complete decriminalization of hard drugs, Oregon has since rolled back these policies, restoring criminal penalties for drug possession.
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It wouldn’t be about dishing it out but a real program with the intention of getting people off it. The money that is spent due to the crime to fund the habits could be directed to a real program of detox , counselling, health awareness, housing and support. The way we are trying to manage it now isn’t working and that obviously very damaging. People will take drugs if they are legal or illegal but if it’s managed as opposed to letting it manage itself in a very harmful way has to be better . I like the way America have done it and the areas that now have shops that sell weed now have so much in taxation they don’t know what to do with it. That profit has been taken away from the criminal and into the hands of the people. I doubt there’s much more drug use than before but I might be wrong.
 
Frank Bullitt said:
You can't magic up fish that aren't there.

"North Sea fish stocks face a mixed reality, with flatfish populations like plaice remaining stable or healthy, while heavily targeted whitefish stocks—most notably cod—remain at critically low levels and are actively overexploited."

"Nearly half of the UK's top commercial fish stocks are critically low or overexploited. Despite scientific warnings for sustainable catch limits, political negotiations frequently permit fishing above recommended levels."
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But it should never have been allowed to get to that state which was done deliberately.
The problem is because of the type of fishing that takes place that just almost hoovers up the fish. We also allow the EU to fish our waters because of some stupid long term agreement. Greed has fucked our seas up it should never have been allowed to happen. As I've already said fish is part of a staple diet it shouldn't only be for those who can afford it. We've been let down by subsequent governments that we vote in.
It needs to change with an initial total ban on fishing cod until stocks build up. Then stop other countries fishing our waters. It won't happen though certain people like the stuff to be expensive. They are making big money from it.
 
John Steed said:
But it should never have been allowed to get to that state which was done deliberately.
The problem is because of the type of fishing that takes place that just almost hoovers up the fish. We also allow the EU to fish our waters because of some stupid long term agreement. Greed has fucked our seas up it should never have been allowed to happen. As I've already said fish is part of a staple diet it shouldn't only be for those who can afford it. We've been let down by subsequent governments that we vote in.
It needs to change with an initial total ban on fishing cod until stocks build up. Then stop other countries fishing our waters. It won't happen though certain people like the stuff to be expensive. They are making big money from it.
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Coorperations hold more power than governments. Trawler fishing should be out right banned as it only upsets the natural balance of our oceans but nobody seems bothered unless it's about net zero nonsense. They are worried about the carbon footprint of brown chicken eggs and cows farting but still allow huge fishing trawlers to clear out the ocean of fish. Nothing makes sense anymore. 🤷‍♂️
 
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