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many would disagree , playing on pitches like bowling greens nowadays instead of playing on mudheaps again different conditions for different eras , physical contact was an essential element of the game back then , if it got a bit nippy they did not need to wear a pair of tights or a pair of gloves to keep warm .:lol:

It's that AND the pitches are better. Everything is faster and more skilled now than it was then, because then it WAS a mudheap as you say
 

It's that AND the pitches are better. Everything is faster and more skilled now than it was then, because then it WAS a mudheap as you say
i think footballers who are on ridiculous amounts of money nowadays, should be able to compete on any surface or weather conditions , unfortunately , it wont happen, i would love see some of todays so called superstars compete in the conditions and the players that were around back then . it would be an eye opener thats for sure .:lol:
 
i think footballers who are on ridiculous amounts of money nowadays, should be able to compete on any surface or weather conditions , unfortunately , it wont happen, i would love see some of todays so called superstars compete in the conditions and the players that were around back then . it would be an eye opener thats for sure .:lol:

They're not built for all kinds of surface though. There's barely a scrap of fat on most of them, that's also why when they get injured they're more susceptible to serious injury as there's little protecting them
 
Since when did fat protect you from getting more serious injuries? :eek::lol:

You'd have more cushion for one thing.
The fact is there is very little between them and a bad challenge. Their muscles are so highly strung that they can easily rip and tear more than footballers of yesteryear.
Today's footballers are far fitter and more athletic than ever before.
 
You'd have more cushion for one thing.
The fact is there is very little between them and a bad challenge. Their muscles are so highly strung that they can easily rip and tear more than footballers of yesteryear.
Today's footballers are far fitter and more athletic than ever before.
again thats a matter of conjecture , get them running around on the mudheaps of the past, avoiding knee and waist high tackles , running around on a bowling green is one thing , running around on a ploughed field is another thing entirely .:lol:
 
again thats a matter of conjecture , get them running around on the mudheaps of the past, avoiding knee and waist high tackles , running around on a bowling green is one thing , running around on a ploughed field is another thing entirely .:lol:

Reminds me of being back in school. You can't do fancy tricks when you've got to get it out the clarts!
 
You'd have more cushion for one thing.
The fact is there is very little between them and a bad challenge. Their muscles are so highly strung that they can easily rip and tear more than footballers of yesteryear.
Today's footballers are far fitter and more athletic than ever before.
Second half of your post is spot on, muscles and physique is finely tuned which makes it more susceptible to injury. The cushioning and fat however is irrelevant, it will add to burden on the body if anything. Most injuries, especially serious injuries, these days are muscle, ligament and tendon injuries as opposed to impact ones.
 
i think footballers who are on ridiculous amounts of money nowadays, should be able to compete on any surface or weather conditions , unfortunately , it wont happen, i would love see some of todays so called superstars compete in the conditions and the players that were around back then . it would be an eye opener thats for sure .:lol:
Switch it around and say imagine how good someone like George Best or Jimmy Johnston would be in todays game, no assassins trying to maim them, or how good would a Glenn Hoddle look playing on the snooker tables they call pitches nowadays...he was a genius on a mudheap FFS, imagine how prolific a partnership Dalglish & Rush would be in todays game.....it frightening to think how good some of the greats of yesterday would be today.
 
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
Nee Chopper Harris or Terry Hurlock
«Psycho» Pat van den Hauwe should in with a shout
And Mark Dennis was no saint even with the Saints
 
Switch it around and say imagine how good someone like George Best or Jimmy Johnston would be in todays game, no assassins trying to maim them, or how good would a Glenn Hoddle look playing on the snooker tables they call pitches nowadays...he was a genius on a mudheap FFS, imagine how prolific a partnership Dalglish & Rush would be in todays game.....it frightening to think how good some of the greats of yesterday would be today.
yes it would , ya could reverse roles, but on the other hand would the hunger and desire still be there , when they are earning absolute fortunes every week , in them days top players used to have to find other forms of employment when they retired . that certainly is not the case nowadays, many top players are multi millionaires long before they retire . i still feel that many top players in todays game would not be anywhere near as good if they were playing thirty /forty years ago against the players that were around, and in them conditions, . pampered prima donnas many of them , of course its all a matter of opinion , oh for a time machine eh .:lol:
 
Well there is also Cana too ;)

Nah Bally was just before my time, I grew up watching midway through Quinn and Phillips time here and while Ball was there I don't remeber him as much as others.

I just say missed out on Roker Park, one of my earliest memories I think was just after the SOL opened.

My first season of memory was going up in the 95/96 season. From then on Bally was captain and created legendary status in my opinion. SuperKev was my favourite player for obvious reasons but Bally's role was huge. He wasnt scared of anyone, some of his tackles in the late 90s created a roar nearly as loud as a goal. Read somewhere that he squared up to all the 'wombles' in the tunnel and they shit themselves....wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

The moment he rattled our own bar whilst winning 2-1 at St Hotch Potch in the pouring rain was then when I realised that even the great times don't come easy supporting the lads the passion of the team then (even Chris Makin and Paul Butler etc were solid).
 
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