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an all time hard men eleven

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A lot of the names on this thread weren’t hard men, they were dirty

Two footed tackles don’t make you a hard man.
 
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Big Jack Charlton. Not someone who dished it out especially but not many would mess with him. His autobiography references a few times where he lost his rag playing for Leeds against European teams, his opponent no doubt regretting winding him up
most of that leeds team could handle themselves , they were not called dirty leeds for nothing .
 
With Whitehurst and Harford upfront, it really doesn’t matter who the other 9 are. My money would still be on them against any XI
 
Did somebody have Jimmy Montgomery in?
You don't think Monty was hard? He got flattened every week by the hard men and the dirty bastards, and then got up! Played at a time when there wasn't much protection for keepers, and could dish it out when necessary. Don't remember him being injured much either. All keepers prior to 1990 had to be hard men!
 
Be it on the streets or on a football pitch, in 99% of cases, most hard men usually aren't obvious and don't go around acting themselves or want to attract any sort of attention but if trouble comes to them can handle it effectively.

Most of the footballer's mentioned on here might have been involved in on field controversies but most of them would get a shock if they behaved similarly in most town and city centres in the UK. People like Billy Whitehurst and Mick Harford etc. are naturally tough lads but there's lots mentioned who in essence are cowards acting in the confines of a football field who'd run a mile if confronted.
Jimmy Barnes, Spuggy Purvis and Benny the brick across the back three.
Remember down Boro once Benny the Brick driving a removal van that released the Eagle Army out of the back doors on the corner of the Holgate End. :lol:
 
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Never really thought you had to be particularly hard to kick people. It’s the ones that got kicked and kept going that were hard, Best springs to mind.
In 20 years time 09 will be on this list. He seems to understand the game and that there’s times in a match you’re going to take a kicking. He doesn’t shy away and keeps his head up.
 
The amount of people on here nursing a semi over so called "hard men" is somewhat alarming.
physical contact as been taken out of the game now , nowhere near as tough as it used to be back then , players are been booked now for diving or feigning injury , instead of trying to win the ball or take somebodies leg off , part of the enjoyment of the game back then was the combative side of the game
 
Chopper Harris wasn’t hard, just a dirty twat who spent the entire time just going through the back of people. Any footballer could do that.

Ibrahimovic is a black belt in Taekwondo, he picked Gattuso up and put him in the bin at Milan.
 
You don't think Monty was hard? He got flattened every week by the hard men and the dirty bastards, and then got up! Played at a time when there wasn't much protection for keepers, and could dish it out when necessary. Don't remember him being injured much either. All keepers prior to 1990 had to be hard men!
Nah
 
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
Kevin Ball is a shoe-in on that, I remember chatting to Lee Nogan about him years ago. Nogan played against Jones and Ball and commented on how Ball was by far and away the hardest opponent he'd ever faced
 
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes

No Roy Keane … I’m out
 
physical contact as been taken out of the game now , nowhere near as tough as it used to be back then , players are been booked now for diving or feigning injury , instead of trying to win the ball or take somebodies leg off , part of the enjoyment of the game back then was the combative side of the game

It's been replaced by skill and speed, rather than clogging.
 
It's been replaced by skill and speed, rather than clogging.
many would disagree , playing on pitches like bowling greens nowadays instead of playing on mudheaps again different conditions for different eras , physical contact was an essential element of the game back then , if it got a bit nippy they did not need to wear a pair of tights or a pair of gloves to keep warm .:lol:
 
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