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top up on a poultry wage
Chicken feed?
Isn’t the it’s their culture argument all a bit chicken and the egg though?
Bound to be. Due to the poultry wage.
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top up on a poultry wage
Isn’t the it’s their culture argument all a bit chicken and the egg though?
Just do that then. Then everyone knows where they stand. That the US is an absolute rip off of a country.
I remember being there when it was over $2 to the £1. Must have been circa 2003. Think I went three times that year, cheap as chips.Wasn't always that way. Around 15 years ago the US was much cheaper than the UK most of Europe, though this was when the dollar was around 1.80 to the pound. It even hit 2.00 at one point - I'd take an empty suitcase and go clothes shopping as it was so cheap and you could eat out at top restaurants for reasonable prices. Over recent years the dollar has got much stronger against the GBP and EUR and inflation hit them hard for a while (though not as bad as the UK)
I have no problem with leaving a tip for good service, think it's well deserved....
I don't like having to tip, no matter how shit the service is, as it's expected, they can piss off with it, I've been to various parts of States over the years and when the service has been poor I've told them and its been reflected in my tip or lack of it....
Paid $30 for two beers in Miami, had to go to the bar to get them, didn't even get a word from the barmaid, just a nod to ask what I wanted, she pulled 2 beers and put them on the bar and wanted 18%, absolutely no chance, I paid for the beers and walked away, she came and asked me why I hadn't tipped her, I told her why, she wasn't happy, neither were the Americans around me, but bollox to them all....
Finished our drinks, went to the next bar, waiter was excellent, service spot on, full tip, no bother....
Should only be tipped for the level of service....
What were the Americans around you saying?I have no problem with leaving a tip for good service, think it's well deserved....
I don't like having to tip, no matter how shit the service is, as it's expected, they can piss off with it, I've been to various parts of States over the years and when the service has been poor I've told them and its been reflected in my tip or lack of it....
Paid $30 for two beers in Miami, had to go to the bar to get them, didn't even get a word from the barmaid, just a nod to ask what I wanted, she pulled 2 beers and put them on the bar and wanted 18%, absolutely no chance, I paid for the beers and walked away, she came and asked me why I hadn't tipped her, I told her why, she wasn't happy, neither were the Americans around me, but bollox to them all....
Finished our drinks, went to the next bar, waiter was excellent, service spot on, full tip, no bother....
Should only be tipped for the level of service....
Yup. Shame how its gone like.Wasn't always that way. Around 15 years ago the US was much cheaper than the UK most of Europe, though this was when the dollar was around 1.80 to the pound. It even hit 2.00 at one point - I'd take an empty suitcase and go clothes shopping as it was so cheap and you could eat out at top restaurants for reasonable prices. Over recent years the dollar has got much stronger against the GBP and EUR and inflation hit them hard for a while (though not as bad as the UK)
Exactly what I mean^^^It’s not like it’s cheap either. £17 for a
cappuccino and a bottle of orange juice in our hotel lounge including tip.
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Many ago in Vegas I paid for 2 beers at a bar. Bloke pulled them and gave me the bill, say €4.40 for arguments sake (before they started taking peoples eyes out in Vegas). I left the 60 cent change on the bar for him and he was so pissed off the miserable bellend refused to take itPaid $30 for two beers in Miami, had to go to the bar to get them, didn't even get a word from the barmaid, just a nod to ask what I wanted, she pulled 2 beers and put them on the bar and wanted 18%, absolutely no chance, I paid for the beers and walked away, she came and asked me why I hadn't tipped her, I told her why, she wasn't happy, neither were the Americans around me, but bollox to them all....
Finished our drinks, went to the next bar, waiter was excellent, service spot on, full tip, no bother....
Should only be tipped for the level of service....
I remember being there when it was over $2 to the £1. Must have been circa 2003. Think I went three times that year, cheap as chips.
Yep. Thats why I wont be back. Tbh I remember the days Americans were rioting when their petrol went over a dollar for gallon. So god knows how it’s got to how it is now.Wasn't always that way. Around 15 years ago the US was much cheaper than the UK most of Europe, though this was when the dollar was around 1.80 to the pound. It even hit 2.00 at one point - I'd take an empty suitcase and go clothes shopping as it was so cheap and you could eat out at top restaurants for reasonable prices.
Yep. Thats why I wont be back. Tbh I remember the days Americans were rioting when their petrol went over a dollar for gallon. So god knows how it’s got to how it is now.
Port Arthur would certainly not be classed as upmarket. Spent a lot of time in Beaumont near there which was pretty grim and went to Port Arthur on a free weekend........got there turned around and went to Galveston instead.From my experience rent is about the same, bills similar, food more expensive. Given that i was in SE Texas can imagine all 3 to be more than here when you look at the big cities / more upmarket areas than Port Arthur.
Wasn't always that way. Around 15 years ago the US was much cheaper than the UK most of Europe, though this was when the dollar was around 1.80 to the pound. It even hit 2.00 at one point - I'd take an empty suitcase and go clothes shopping as it was so cheap and you could eat out at top restaurants for reasonable prices. Over recent years the dollar has got much stronger against the GBP and EUR and inflation hit them hard for a while (though not as bad as the UK)
Thanks, was thinking of having a dodge in at the weekend, but will go to the one over the road instead.think there's 3 states introduced min wage, California is one, think other 2 are Alaska and Montana, ( not sure ) .
On another note, be careful if drinking at West Rib in Talkeetna Alaska, put tip on bill( unbeknown to us ) and we also left a cash tip. Not going back there
Galveston is nice. Just too far for work for me.Port Arthur would certainly not be classed as upmarket. Spent a lot of time in Beaumont near there which was pretty grim and went to Port Arthur on a free weekend........got there turned around and went to Galveston instead.
I can’t stand the American tipping culture, for me a tip should be a nice little bonus for exceptional service to be able to treat the worker and not a top up on a poultry wage that is expected to be the given
I get that people doing the tipping is well intentioned and the servers certainly deserve to earn something they can live off but the whole culture of it just takes the heat off the fat cat owners who are the real villains not the consumer who has turned up and paid the correct price for the products provided
In the early to mid 90’s , some English tourists in our hotel bought another suitcase and went back home with it full of nee clothes.
We went to the Florida mall one night , bought all sorts of top brand gear for next to nowt , like half price , and this was in a shop like John Lewis not a factory outlet place.
Some of the new stuff I’d bought at home was taken back for a refund when I got home.
Bought a set of Callaway golf clubs one year , bumped into two people I knew on the flight back and three of us had bought clubs in the same shop.
Last time we went 2016 we bought nothing but food and drink it was that expensive.
Galveston is nice. Just too far for work for me.
You working in Beaumont?
O&G / Refineries pretty much keep the economy going in that area.
You had to be careful though - Customs were on the watchout for people arriving from the US with bags of shopping from Macey's etc especially on high value items like jewelry. My workaround was to throw away all of the packaging, bags and receipts and rough everything up so if stopped (and I never was) I could claim that I'd had all of the clothes for ages.
In the early to mid 90’s , some English tourists in our hotel bought another suitcase and went back home with it full of nee clothes.
We went to the Florida mall one night , bought all sorts of top brand gear for next to nowt , like half price , and this was in a shop like John Lewis not a factory outlet place.
Some of the new stuff I’d bought at home was taken back for a refund when I got home.
Bought a set of Callaway golf clubs one year , bumped into two people I knew on the flight back and three of us had bought clubs in the same shop.
Last time we went 2016 we bought nothing but food and drink it was that expensive.