Am I a Dinasour - Office Environments?

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Mind the best tossing off I heard of was my mate 15 year back.

There was hell on at Enron as 80 grand worth of parts were missing on a stocktake.

A control room had a black n white tiles floor n that lads had made 4 foot high chess pieces out of various nuts bolts n washers.:lol:
 


Went to have a chat with a director of a company earlier on in the week about possible opportunities at the company, a big thing he mentioned was that I would need to fit into the culture of the company.

The dress code on that day seemed to be shorts and zany comedy T-shirts or shit with Atari symbols etc on. Staff seemed to be just f***ing about chatting shit or playing ping pong, hangng about in 'break out' areas or on their laptops in the cafe, they seem to have loads of 'fun' days etc......I sort of decided I couldn't work there by this. Turns out they're not hiring anyways.

But Ive come away thinking, is this what modern office environments are like? I'm more of a tradional suit or at least a pair of slacks and buttoned shirt type of man, I like to keep work away from socialising, get to work, do a full days graft before leaving and getting home and taking the work clothes of is a demarkation point to try and switch off from work. To me if your staff have time to piss about, you hav etoo many staff.

Do i need to maybes broaden my thoughts on this to fit into new companies? This is my first real exposure of looking for employment outside of my company that Ive had.

Where do I even buy a funny Bart Simpson t-shirt???


Sounds like a Marketing Agency or gaming manufacturer.
Never worked in a place like that.
For me it’s budgets, targets, culture, meetings and more meetings and implementing a Global Strategy.
We do dress down Friday’s though.....wtf :)

It’s f***ing hard work and supports my life style and eventually will get a tap on the shoulder.
 
That's what happened with ours ...moaning cu nts droning on and on :lol::lol:
I had to walk out of one when they started repeating themselves. We should have had a cuddly Yoda.
Not on my team but I used to listen in to another teams stand up (same project) and it was basically just an excuse for the fat twat PM to make his voice heard. I used to refer to it as Big Kev's sermon from the mound. He'd speak for 15 minutes about utter shite that no one needed to know about and then tell people what he wants. Barely any updates from anyone.
 
I know a company in Boro that has a climbing wall, squash court, pool tables and to top it off a fireman's pole to get downstairs quickly.

The zany bastards.
 
Agile is absolutely shite and designed by buzz word wankers.

Its great in the right environment and for a piece of work suited to it. When forced into a project that is completely unsuitable for it, it is a disaster.

I have worked in 5 or 6 different IT departments now and reckon 1 of them actually understood it and used it correctly.
 
I thought Silicon Valley and the IT crowd were comedies - or appears they are in fact documentaries. Does shit like this really go on? Is it commonplace? The wildest we get is when a cake comes in for a birthday
Silicon Valley is pretty spot on with the way they work and the environments they work in.

A mate of mine spent some time working between San Francisco and here a couple of year ago getting investment for a company he was at. The investors didn't want the CEO in place so my mate ended up in the role. Every time we'd go for a pint he'd be telling us how much his life was becoming Silicon Valley. Quite liked his tale of borrowing a Google bike and getting halfway back to the place he was staying before realising they track them, so he threw it in a bush and ran back :lol:
 
Its great in the right environment and for a piece of work suited to it. When forced into a project that is completely unsuitable for it, it is a disaster.

I have worked in 5 or 6 different IT departments now and reckon 1 of them actually understood it and used it correctly.

It'll be cast aside for another soon, where everyone has to go on a course. And so on.
 
Got your own gym in there though Bob, used to be a customer of mine (m watson). Hellon once when I tried to take an xmas bottle in.
I don't work at DLR mate. I'm further down Kingsway. Best we have are a set of kettlebells one of the contractors left when he decided he was going to work from home for the rest of eternity.
 
It'll be cast aside for another soon, where everyone has to go on a course. And so on.
I have good idea and I will call it 'JFDI' Its where you go off and sit at your desk and just get on with it. I plan to write a book, run workshops (for a hefty fee) and sell it to gullible IT managers.
 
I can see this working if your business wants to attract new graduates who will work for minimum salary as long as they feel its a cool place to work, it becomes a issue is at established places.

Couple of years ago I was at the Barclay's technology place down Manchester just after they had decided to "become the new google", and introduce all this nonsense. This is a place still supporting back end systems built in the 80's by 60 year old guys called Jeff and Reg. You could just sense the embarrassment across the site with older guys just waiting on until they retire.

Oh, and Agile works only on simple systems, if you have 50 legacy systems interlinked due to years of mergers and takeovers you need people with experience and knowledge. You cannot just throw things in quick to be first to market, a mistake Barclay's was finding out at the time.
 
Why do you want to wear a shirt and trousers to sit at a desk all day? Just wear something comfortable.
Like a shirt and trousers?

Sounds like a Marketing Agency or gaming manufacturer.
Never worked in a place like that.
For me it’s budgets, targets, culture, meetings and more meetings and implementing a Global Strategy.
We do dress down Friday’s though.....wtf :)

It’s f***ing hard work and supports my life style and eventually will get a tap on the shoulder.
Was a Bank!
 
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I just started a new contract this week at a place where the IT department use 'Agile'. Everyone is part of a 'Scrum' and each one has its own team name. When you find out that the team names are things like 'The Beserkers', 'The Night Watch' and 'Red Squadron', it doesn't take a genius to work out that the programmers have been given a say. It's not doing much for the image of It staff when team names like this just screams nerdy-virgins.

Oh aye and apparently at 'scrum stand-ups' you have to be holding the Yoda cuddly toy to be allowed to speak.

F'kin awesome :rolleyes:

A few years ago I took over a team for a few months, that had been heavily invested in agile by a previous manager. One of the first things I did was to scrap the stand up.

It was a team of 4 (plus me as manager) with 2 pairs of developers working on completely different systems. However the team also had to deal with day-to-day issues. The stand up was to say what your aims were for the day and if you had met your aims for yesterday. What I found was that although people might have been busy, they regularly missed their aims because something turned out to be more complicated or there were too many day-to-day issues. It was quickly obvious that the stand up was daily report to colleagues who did not need a daily report, explaining why you had not achieved your daily aim. Over the course of a week or two, people generally were able to catch up with their dev work so nothing was slipping behind.

Scrapping it saved half an hour per day. I then made sure the people in each pair were talking together and the projects were running on track by having a quick chat with them every couple of days. The projects were measured in terms of weeks or months so it didn't matter if someone got bogged down with an unexpected database issue for a day or two, that is just the development process. Not having to justify slow progress on something difficult every morning raised moral.
 
Went to have a chat with a director of a company earlier on in the week about possible opportunities at the company, a big thing he mentioned was that I would need to fit into the culture of the company.

The dress code on that day seemed to be shorts and zany comedy T-shirts or shit with Atari symbols etc on. Staff seemed to be just f***ing about chatting shit or playing ping pong, hangng about in 'break out' areas or on their laptops in the cafe, they seem to have loads of 'fun' days etc......I sort of decided I couldn't work there by this. Turns out they're not hiring anyways.

But Ive come away thinking, is this what modern office environments are like? I'm more of a tradional suit or at least a pair of slacks and buttoned shirt type of man, I like to keep work away from socialising, get to work, do a full days graft before leaving and getting home and taking the work clothes of is a demarkation point to try and switch off from work. To me if your staff have time to piss about, you hav etoo many staff.

Do i need to maybes broaden my thoughts on this to fit into new companies? This is my first real exposure of looking for employment outside of my company that Ive had.

Where do I even buy a funny Bart Simpson t-shirt???
I think it all depends on the industry that you work. However, being in Human Resource management, I can tell you that dressing and acting professional is always a good rule of thumb as most company management (at least in my experience) still prefer that to the casual dress and attitude that seems to the norm nowadays.

And Dinasour? :lol:
Maybe the problem isn't his attitude but his spelling

more and more people seem to be following the google model. My BIL works for a bank and they have days where a friggin' petting zoo comes in, f***ing goats running about the office.
That's my typical day at work... we have no petting zoo...

I was sitting having a shite typing on my phone mate, you'll have to excuse my spelling mate! I got all the right letters, just the wrong way round.
:lol:
I don't think that makes it better, my friend:lol:

In conclusion, I think we can agree that @TheWanderer is indeed a dinasour with no discernible ping pong skills.
:lol:
 
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