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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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Anthony From Blue said:
Sick of people having a go at Margaret Byrne.

Adam Johnson was a valuable employee to this football club. Not playing him would surely have relegated us and cost the club £100m, making the current annual at the club look minuscule in comparison to what would happen if relegation occured. It was an unethical decision to play Johnson but businesses often have to make unethical decisions to thrive! Margaret Byrne did what she did to save dozens of jobs.
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With the greatest respect, that's a load of bollocks.

Unethical businesses fail and get found out time after time. Look at the banks after LIBOR and PPI, remember Enron and Worldcom. There have even been studies undertaken that empirically prove unethical decisions are harmful to firms in the long run.

If the board had access to all the information as it is alleged than it was a terrible decision to play him and not representative of the clubs supporter/customer base.
 

Was this the story about the 8 year old lad upset at the club about Andy Johnson?

I had massive difficulties explaining the story to my 6 year old autistic son who idolised Adam Johnson, although I don't have any issues with the club regarding it. My son just can't grasp that he won't be playing for Sunderland again.

Johnson has let everyone down and, now he has been found guilty, will have to suffer the consequences of his actions.
 
redandwhiterob said:
Are you trying to tell everybody here you never said you should be writing to the club instead of airing your views on here with regards to this subject??
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And here is is avoiding the question as always, so I'll post it again ..... and, no, I'm not trying to tell 'everybody' because, despite what you seem to believe, you don't speak for the board.

In all the years I've posted I've never told any Sunderland people they shouldn't post on here, fact.

You've made your accusation so, instead of going off on tangents, back it up like a man .......

redandwhiterob said: ↑

"I'm not the one whose telling people they shouldn't be posting a opinion on a public forum ffs"

BTW you should say who's and an opinion.
 
SAFC 83 said:
Or time for the club to make a statement to put this to bed one way or another.
It's the clubs silence that is fuelling the speculation. I would like them just to be honest now, even if it makes them look bad. Apologise to the girl and let her get on with her life.
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They've got nothing to answer for. Unless you believe everything the press print of course.
 
Byrne has fucked up badly, it is clear that she knew a lot more than she is letting on otherwise she would have addressed those specific points rather than releasing a bland statement. Her resignation would help draw a line under this episode and the club can move forward.
 
BRMC said:
He was an ex employee and was told he made pointless claims.

I have no doubt Short will be willing to bend the rules to try and push the club forward. His hedge fund were accused of all sorts in S.Korea from what I remember.

Capitalism makes people that way I'm afraid. Look at Ashley's Sports Direct and it's use of exploiting staff.
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I do think Short has the best interests of the club at heart, my comment about Short was not meant as a direct criticism on how the club have handled the AJ situation, more of an acknowledgement that sometimes in business, morality is not necessarily the priority.

I think that in this case the club were stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
toosb said:
Why is that letter aimed at Margaret Byrne? It's sensational nonsense to put that front page.
The answers to those questions can only be given by Adam Johnson. It's not the club's fault that he did what he did.

The man who wrote the letter is nothing more than an attention seeker. Amazing that the Echo think it's a good letter and to put it front page defies belief.
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This.

Regardless of the "whether the club knew" debate (I pass no comment on that at all). Adam Johnson and only Adam Johnson is responsible for the choices he made. Not the club, not Mrs. Byrne, not Ellis Short, Dick advocatt, not Big Sam, not the fans.

He's not our problem anymore. We still love the club, we still love the lads and we will continue to support them.
 
Rizla said:
Byrne has fucked up badly, it is clear that she knew a lot more than she is letting on otherwise she would have addressed those specific points rather than releasing a bland statement. Her resignation would help draw a line under this episode and the club can move forward.
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I think that's what will happen.

Longy said:
The world is full of reet tits. Crying to the paper man. The paper printing it. All a load of shite.
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He'll be angling for a free season ticket man.
 
Play nice lads and lasses because if this thread descends into a pissing contest it'll get pulled and a few mods will have wasted a lot of time keeping it live.

Try this.

According to The Guardian the
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is just the latest example of how the beautiful game is going to hell in a handcart.

Discuss.
 
BRMC said:
It all depends how much detail he gave, IF he did tell them at all.

He could of said "I sent her a message to meet up to give her one of my tops. I also gave her a kiss once I passed it over. " it sounds wrong but completely different to " I was contacting her on a regular basis to meet up. I gave her a top after I picked her up in my car where we were kissing".

The club should be putting this to bed.

The statement has left us in the similar position as to when we appointed PDC. Everyone divided and lack of answers from the club. Seems Byrne is more than happy to do the minimum and hide from the real questions.
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I personally think that it is a storm in a teacup. The problem, we have as a club is that it takes a few weeks for the sentence to be passed and then there might be an appeal, so it could go on.

I do not think that the club should make any further comments as then it becomes open season. We need to remember, it is not the club that are on trial.
 
Fetch Fletch said:
All it takes is midnight before their 16th to hit and it's suddenly no longer a talking point.
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Exactly mate, people totally disregard the fact that they were in love and later married. The mad thing is, the legal consenting age for sex for girls 40-50 years ago was I think 13 years of age, and people now are being arrested respectively for having sex with minors. You can't try people on the grounds of what the law is now and what's appropriate, no matter what your morals are. I'm personally against it, but that was a different time in history.
 
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