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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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box2box said:
Why did the case take so long to get to court ?

Over 12 months is mental
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Why? They have to investigate every single thing, and produce evidence, before they give it to the CPS. Phone, internet records, personal statements are just three. How long should it take in your opinion, given the police have to concentrate on everything else?
 

SAFCOldie said:
He's a dickhead , obviously too arrogant and stupid to get a grip, but can't help thinking this could have all been stopped by a simple press of the 'block' button by the lass or a 'stop sending me messages bellend' message, why it carried on for so long is beyond me.
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Good lord:oops:

He could have told her that it was inappropriate. He knew what he was doing.
 
Sweeper said:
If the club had not been provided with the transcript and whatsapp messages, they would surely have explicitly said so.
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I certainly wish they had but I can understand why they thought the key issue was whether they knew he was pleading guilty or not because that is directly related to whether they could sack him.
 
SAFCOldie said:
He's a dickhead , obviously too arrogant and stupid to get a grip, but can't help thinking this could have all been stopped by a simple press of the 'block' button by the lass or a 'stop sending me messages bellend' message, why it carried on for so long is beyond me.
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Stupidity.
 
I have sat in court many years ag listening to evidence that bore no resemblance to what was reported in local newspapers about another issue. The celebrity aspect will have coloured some of the reporting but when the judge instructed the jury that he wanted a 12-0 verdict from them but later accepted 10-2 verdict on one count, and not guilty on another,it does suggest that there has been significant doubt in some manner or interpretation of the evidence. The judge's comment that Johnson has to go away and say goodbye to his child smacked of media grandstanding and any appeal might focus on a judicial bias ?
 
Why are people forgetting the PFA's role in all this? The club initially suspended him to be told by the PFA that they had to unsuspend him.
 
janey said:
I disagree, regardless of the clubs response it would have happened. Edwards tweeting about us singing songs has absolutely nothing to do with the clubs response. He couldn't wait to stick the boot in when he accused Johnson of doing an aeroplane celebration at the Derby.
Whatever side of the fence in the club response argument they would always have had a go at the fans at some point.
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He seems like a bit of exceptional case; seemingly ready to take aim all the time.

But any other fan criticism certainly could have been alleviated by SAFC upholding his suspension. No Johnson on the pitch = no fan support or chants for him. Out of sight, out of mind. SAFC's decision to withdraw the suspension, IMO, gave the green light to supporters to get behind Johnson, it was almost like he'd been acquitted in many supporters eyes, albeit that was naive. The supporters then got behind what is now a convicted sex offender and will unfairly receive criticism from some quarters.

I never joined in with it, but I certainly won't be critical of those who did (the supportive chants that is, not the pathetic, 'shags who he wants' stuff) as I believe they've been badly misled
 
SAFCOldie said:
Just playing devils advocate, but I know for a fact if this lass was from Newcastle half this board would be saying it was a set up/conspiracy.
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What the fuck are you blabbering on about?

Yes, I'm sure the same fuckwits who are blaming the victim in this thread would continue to blame her if she was from Newcastle, but nobody with a braincell would suggest that.

Look at some of the recent Asian sex grooming cases. In many of the cases you have girls aged 12, 13, 14, 15 who 'go along with it' e.g think at the time it's consensual, and think the men are their 'boyfriends' because they give them gifts and attention when really they are being exploited and only see it later, once they have some distance from it and some emotional support. The fact a victim (WHO IS A CHILD) isn't aware at the time they are being groomed doesn't in any way, shape or form exonerate the person exploiting them.
 
Man About Town said:
Over 200 negative posts by "Haway" on this thread, got an agenda there pal? Mods ban this wanksplat.
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How is what he has posted been negative?

We should all just believe that the club didn't know about Johnson even though Durham Police have came out and said that we did?
Or should we somehow interpret the club statement to mean that we didn't know abou it even though it dodges the question?

Maybe you could try actually contributing to the thread rather than showing yourself up
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
Good lord:oops:

He could have told her that it was inappropriate. He knew what he was doing.
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I know he did, if you read the texts he sent she must have known what he was expecting. I'm not sticking up for him I'm just saying it should have been stopped much earlier. He definitely deserves the sentence, a mint lass & a kid and he does this, it's ridiculous.
 
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