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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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Sandboy said:
Copper told me he thought 4 for what he'd admitted before today's verdicts
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Think he was bullshitting, I'd be amazed if you can find any cases where the victim is 15 and the only conviction is for kissing and grooming (that have been admitted before trial - 33% of sentence- , which was the case before the trial) and the accused get 4 years. Just not true.
 

jackpunch said:
If we start taking points off clubs for the morals of the players and owners/boards half the useless qunts would still be in deficit come the end of April. It's a f***ing shambles from top to bottom and to a degree it's just unfortunate that it's Sunderland this time. Cos there's 19th other clubs that would dealt it in the same way..... albeit wrongly in my opinion.
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Total conjecture, whereas this is an actual example of it happening.
 
becs said:
Who said that Sunderland AFC have seen the message transcripts and police interview recordings?

Was it just the defence who claimed they had? As given the rest of the stuff that came out, I'm more inclined to believe that the club did not see the finer details.
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To be fair Becs Johnsons QC said that Byrne was aware of the evidence, he was present at the meeting when it was disclosed. Byrne could always call him out as a liar I suppose.
 
Sima said:
Totally agree, the lack of refutal in the majority of the accusations of Sunderland's moral standing suggests that they knew a lot more than they are saying in the statement.

It's a moral decision made by Sunderland and in no way punishable by the FA or the Premier League.
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Agreed completely.
 
look out piano said:
Not an expert, but a realist rob - so stick that up ya hoop fella xx
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You haven't produced a simple scrap of evidence to back up your realism. It staggers me thst your have thd gaul to hoy figures about willy nilly with regards to jail time on a subject you clearly now very little about. Takes judges and Q.Cs years to get where they are but you've seem to have cracked this legal malarkey in 3 week or so. Top effort lady. You'll be running the old bailey within a year where you can rewrite setencing guidelines at will
 
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First two teacher's having sex with 15 year old pupils, 2 years and 4 years, third one the exact offence johnson is up with, sexual activity, teacher with a pupil, again 15, 2 1/2 years.

Wait for the verdict. If the judge takes a very harsh view on him being a footballer etc. I can't say it's impossible but personally I'd be amazed if its much in either direction from 3 years.
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Skimmed the first link but seems to be in line with what is being said. Good to have actual examples rather than 'just my opinion' and 'I only read The Sun's headline'

Whether it's 3, 4 or 5 years (or even more), his life is fucked and that's the least that he deserves.
 
becs said:
Who said that Sunderland AFC have seen the message transcripts and police interview recordings?

Was it just the defence who claimed they had? As given the rest of the stuff that came out, I'm more inclined to believe that the club did not see the finer details.
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But the defence (inc. their QC have said that they had the transcript of the interview and ALL the whatsapp messages).

If that's not true, then fine, but why the fuck don't SAFC just say that? The allegations put to them were very specific and yet they've chosen not to answer them.
 
redandwhiterob said:
You haven't produced a simple scrap of evidence to back up your realism. It staggers me thst your have thd gaul to hoy figures about willy nilly with regards to jail time on a subject you clearly now very little about. Takes judges and Q.Cs years to get where they are but you've seem to have cracked this legal malarkey in 3 week or so. Top effort lady. You'll be running the old bailey within a year where you can rewrite setencing guidelines at will
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Gerrin :lol:
 
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