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Both sides are as bad as each other. Personally having as a Catholic grown up in Scotland still to this day see us subjected to sectarianism. Goes both ways unfortunately and in the 21st century it is indeed Scotlands Shame. As with the original poster both sides can't wait to be offended and try to take the moral high ground whilst they are both as bad as each other and need to reflect on there own sides actions.
 
The Hunter said:
Exactly this. The term Hun is a familiar derogatory term used by Brits for Germans in the two world wars...but in this instance it is being used as a reference to the German origins of the current British royal family. It is an easy dig for Irish Republicans to use against those who swear allegiance to the Crown (in this case, Rangers fans).
That, condensing it down, is what it's about.
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The Royal family is why it still prevails as an insult almost 100 years later. It’s origin though is the newspaper headlines and Ill feeling toward them at the onset of WW1. The following is a quote from a Simon Kuper article…

“Incredibly, according to one statistic Celtic had 53 players past-and-present to have fought in this war. Arsenal & Manchester Utd had 22 and 14 players respectively. That’s quite a number at Celtic compared to those lauded sides. It doesn’t make Celtic any greater or otherwise than others, nor should it be taken as such, but it’s more just a surprising fact”

Rangers had 10 brave souls. I do know that Hearts enlisted their entire squad at the onset of war. Football was seen by the government at the time as a recruitment tool and something that would keep up morale at home and in the trenches. Other clubs (Rangers) took shelter behind protected industries like shipbuilding by finding jobs very quickly for their players there.

Sadly, the fight for Irish independence took flight in Ireland during WW1 and at the end of the war, the short memories and febrile ground for anti-Catholicism in Scotland began to take hold. The changes in society meant that Scotland in the post-war period remained a perilous place. It allowed Rangers to enforce their bigoted signing policies acting on the heightened tension in society, and fermenting the fears in communities.

It’s genuinely odd that they’re so patriotic now or want to be seen to be so patriotic.

Just as an aside, Celtic won the ‘Army and Navy war fund cup’ in 1918 which was a friendly tournament created to raise funds for family of the war dead.
 
BigGSta said:
Both sides are as bad as each other. Personally having as a Catholic grown up in Scotland still to this day see us subjected to sectarianism. Goes both ways unfortunately and in the 21st century it is indeed Scotlands Shame. As with the original poster both sides can't wait to be offended and try to take the moral high ground whilst they are both as bad as each other and need to reflect on there own sides actions.
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They really genuinely aren’t. That’s the easiest trope to resort to and it shows such a lack of thought.

There’s one football club in Glasgow for whom bigotry is central to who they are. The same club that enacted a formal policy of non recruitment purely on the basis of a persons religion and whom still don’t lift a finger to stamp out the very worst sectarian elements within its fan base. It’s why guys like Sir Alex Ferguson despise them.

Celtic on the other hand issue banning orders to their own fans, connect with Nil by Mouth Scotland on education in schools and have sought to police the green brigade to the extent that they tried to appoint the hated former head of football policing in Scotland to the board.
 
Doberman said:
What do you want? A medal? Rangers were doing all of that in August. Well done for catching up though.

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Foodbank collection yes. Not noticed support for those having to strike to try and maintain pay and conditions. Not seen anything about support for Ukranian refugees but I imagine you can advise. Raising money for a Palestinian refugee camp sounds a bit of a stretch for the lumpen Ibroxians but I live in hope.
 
Doberman said:
"kill all huns" is a phrase which is splattered all over the walls of Belfast and other areas of Northern Ireland. That's not there for Rangers fans.

It is sectarian.
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This 100% in Belfast KAH is plastered all over. A lot reckon it goes back to harland and Wolff, a German firm only employing Protestants in their yards in Belfast and Glasgow.
 
Chewit said:
I’ve spend an enormous part of my life either working and staying all over Scotland. Love the people and always been treated well. It never occurred to me in my 60 years that I was not welcome Lately however I’ve become self conscious about being English when Iam there.
I’ve walked around Glasgow, Edinboro, Dundee and Aberdeen late at night many many times in the past without a second thought that Iam English.
I wouldn’t open my mouth now.
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thats sad to hear , love Scotland and been up every year for donkeys but not since COVID.
like yourself, always found the people spot on, mind you , I go up top end of Scotland,
 
Dun Scathach said:
They really genuinely aren’t. That’s the easiest trope to resort to and it shows such a lack of thought.

There’s one football club in Glasgow for whom bigotry is central to who they are. The same club that enacted a formal policy of non recruitment purely on the basis of a persons religion and whom still don’t lift a finger to stamp out the very worst sectarian elements within its fan base. It’s why guys like Sir Alex Ferguson despise them.

Celtic on the other hand issue banning orders to their own fans, connect with Nil by Mouth Scotland on education in schools and have sought to police the green brigade to the extent that they tried to appoint the hated former head of football policing in Scotland to the board.
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Genuine question here.

If you were in a boozer in Glasgow and a load of Celtic fans started singing "Broad Black Brimmer" or "Boys of the old Brigade" would you feel as uncomfortable as a group of Rangers fans singing "We are the Billy Boys"?
 
Dun Scathach said:
They really genuinely aren’t. That’s the easiest trope to resort to and it shows such a lack of thought.

There’s one football club in Glasgow for whom bigotry is central to who they are. The same club that enacted a formal policy of non recruitment purely on the basis of a persons religion and whom still don’t lift a finger to stamp out the very worst sectarian elements within its fan base. It’s why guys like Sir Alex Ferguson despise them.

Celtic on the other hand issue banning orders to their own fans, connect with Nil by Mouth Scotland on education in schools and have sought to police the green brigade to the extent that they tried to appoint the hated former head of football policing in Scotland to the board.
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Good post. There's no doubt its a significant problem across Scottish football, but there's also no doubt that those associated with Rangers are by far the worst of the lot. It's not even up for discussion.
 
Butcher's Coat said:
No love lost between Aberdeen and Rangers.
Goes back to when Neil Cooper of Aberdeen mangled Ian Durrant of Rangers knee in a game back in the 80's.
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It was Neil Simpson, not Neil Cooper - it was awful - I was at the game and had a good view. Neil Simpson is actually a really nice bloke.

There was always an edge to Aberdeen Rangers games before that tackle - It think Alex Ferguson saw Aberdeen beating Rangers as being a vehicle for revenge (or something).
 
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