5 years for Bowie today.....



mux

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I imagine most 70s pop stars will have had plenty of opportunity and would have had a lot of young lasses chucking themselves at them.

Most of them will have done something they were ashamed of.
Yeah if I was a paedophile I'd be ashamed as well.

Still waiting for what should be a normal ethical and moral reaction from this place on this story. Imagine this is why Savile didn't face justice either, people don't want to believe it.
 
Yeah if I was a paedophile I'd be ashamed as well.

Still waiting for what should be a normal ethical and moral reaction from this place on this story. Imagine this is why Savile didn't face justice either, people don't want to believe it.
I believe it and I'm sure there are many many more cases. I'm still listening to Led Zep and Page was definitely dodgy.
 
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I believe it and I'm sure there are many many more cases. I'm still listening to Led Zep and Page was definitely dodgy.
I guess I have a grudge with the fact that in a world of people being hysterically offended by anything, that nobody seems to want to talk about this and he's spoken of as some legendary figure. Says a lot about those type of people's actual morality.
 
Yeah if I was a paedophile I'd be ashamed as well.

Still waiting for what should be a normal ethical and moral reaction from this place on this story. Imagine this is why Savile didn't face justice either, people don't want to believe it.
I think ya being a bit ower the top. Different era. Different circumstances. Nobody's filed a complaint.

What you've gotta ask is would Bowie/Wylam/Page and whoever else have behaved the way they did in today's society. I doubt they would have.

Savile and Glitter on the other hand were monsters.
 
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I think ya being a bit ower the top. Different era. Different circumstances. Nobody's filed a complaint.

What you've gotta ask is would Bowie/Wylam/Page and whoever else have behaved the way they did in today's society. I doubt they would have.

Savile and Glitter on the other hand were monsters.
21 years of age. A rock God and in LA these groupies would have been throwing themselves at the bands. I don't think someone out of their heads and buzzing after a gig would have asked for ID backstage. The girls weren't trafficked either.

Morally, it probably was dubious but it was a different time. Free Love etc etc.
 
I guess I have a grudge with the fact that in a world of people being hysterically offended by anything, that nobody seems to want to talk about this and he's spoken of as some legendary figure. Says a lot about those type of people's actual morality.
I think the thing you need to remember muxy is that the man is dead, he isn't here to defend any allegations of wrongdoing. I can't recall any expose's on Bowie with regards to noncing about - and back in the 70's life was a fair bit different to the way things are now (with groupies, free love and what not - I cant think a single pop star would have asked for age verification etc but they will have been able to tell the difference between a child's body / what they perceived to be an adult etc - he was nee Glitter).
 
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mux

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I think the thing you need to remember muxy is that the man is dead, he isn't here to defend any allegations of wrongdoing. I can't recall any expose's on Bowie with regards to noncing about - and back in the 70's life was a fair bit different to the way things are now (with groupies, free love and what not - I cant think a single pop star would have asked for age verification etc but they will have been able to tell the difference between a child's body / what they perceived to be an adult etc - he was nee Glitter).
Well Savile was dead when it hit the fan for him, it's no different for Bowie.

Think of it this way, he has had sex with 15 year old girls, and that's just what we know of. Compare him to Adam Johnson.

It's this kind of defending of him that I find distasteful to be honest lop, people need to decide whether it was okay to have sex with children back then or not. It can't be decided on a person by person basis.
 

JonMc

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Mick Ronson made him what he was with his riffing but when he and Tom Petty died the cool factor in music took a sharp dive.
 

Sack Fatto

Midfield
Music God...and Genius. Can’t believe it’s been 5 years. In 100 years time, Bowie will be revered like Beethoven and Mozart. A massive miss, in my obsessive opinion.
 

Slim999

Midfield
Well Savile was dead when it hit the fan for him, it's no different for Bowie.

Think of it this way, he has had sex with 15 year old girls, and that's just what we know of. Compare him to Adam Johnson.

It's this kind of defending of him that I find distasteful to be honest lop, people need to decide whether it was okay to have sex with children back then or not. It can't be decided on a person by person basis.
It's quite a ridiculous comparison

Saville was a predatory peadophile who preyed on children and had morbid 'sex" with dead bodies
Glitter was a child seeker / abuser

Bowie stands accused of shagging 15 yo groupies who were throwing themselves at the band in USA. No one is claiming DB forced himself on them.
This info was known when he was alive- it did not "come out " after his death

Different times

You would also then need to classify this list in a similar way.....

Elvis
Jerry Lee Lewis
Jimmy Page
Most of Rolling Stones
Iggy pop
The New York Dolls
And many many more

Nit trying to completely absolve him - but you need to put things in proper perspective
 
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mux

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It's quite a ridiculous comparison

Saville was a predatory peadophile who preyed on children and had morbid 'sex" with dead bodies
Glitter was a child seeker / abuser

Bowie stands accused of shagging 15 yo groupies who were throwing themselves at the band in USA. No one is claiming DB forced himself on them.
This info was known when he was alive- it did not "come out " after his death

Different times

You would also then need to classify this list in a similar way.....

Elvis
Jerry Lee Lewis
Jimmy Page
Most of Rolling Stones
Iggy pop
The New York Dolls
And many many more

Nit trying to completely absolve him - but you need to put things in proper perspective
I'll put it into the perspective that he is an alleged pedophile.

These are the kinds of ridiculous posts that try to defend him.

Here's a comparison for you. I'm genuinely a singer in a band. If a 15 year old lass wanted to have sex with me and I did, would it be okay to still listen to our music, still talk about me as a legend (I am, I'm class) and never mention what I'd done?

Of course not. You're part of the problem.
 

JonMc

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I'm genuinely a singer in a band. If a 15 year old lass wanted to have sex with me and I did, would it be okay to still listen to our music, still talk about me as a legend (I am, I'm class) and never mention what I'd done?
If you had been on The Jean Genie, recorded Spiders from Mars and wowed us with a track called Life on Mars I would have still listened to it. Yeah, the caveat that you had a dodgy sexual history might come up but I'd still listen to those songs. And talk about you as a legendary songwriter.
 
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If you had been on The Jean Ginie, recorded Spiders from Mars and wowed us with a track called Life on Mars I would have still listened to it. Yeah, the caveat that you had a dodgy sexual history might come up but I'd still listen to those songs. And talk about you as a legendary songwriter.
Ah cheers mate. I'm better than Bowie so I'll take that into consideration next time I get the chance to be a nonce.

@Napoleon Dynamite will back me up on this, he is one of our biggest fans tbh.
 

Darlo1973

Midfield
Remember the day well. I was on a work trip to Manchester and woke up in the hotel with a bad hangover to see the news. Drove back home that evening and Radio 2 were playing back to back Bowie songs.
 
I'll put it into the perspective that he is an alleged pedophile.

These are the kinds of ridiculous posts that try to defend him.

Here's a comparison for you. I'm genuinely a singer in a band. If a 15 year old lass wanted to have sex with me and I did, would it be okay to still listen to our music, still talk about me as a legend (I am, I'm class) and never mention what I'd done?

Of course not. You're part of the problem.
I think it's a bit of stretch to call yourself a singer mind.
 
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