1st Ashes Test - Brisbane

[mackembhoy]

Out of the last 48 innings England have only past 400 Eight times, and not once in the last 16.

That highlights a huge problem, how much is gooch accountable?[DOUBLEPOST=1385135529][/DOUBLEPOST]

Was the same with the Aussies innings tbf. And as Vaughan said, the pace of the bowling from the Aussies was relentless.

Edit: Some people dont see cricket that way either. Its basically all of England wickets are from class bowling, and all opposition wickets is from poor batting. Just look at Harris' dismissal fo Cool for example.

First up I thought what had cook done leaving his bat out like that. The replay showed what a beauty that was.

Harris is a marvellous bowler as is siddle. Sadly that moustached prick has improved.

 

[dangermows]

Hopefully.

More likely to be the odd 40 mins here and there. Its still not over yet though cos Clarke will have to decide how much he trusts the weather and also how long he thinks we can bat for second innings. I dont think he will be doing as Boycoutt suggests (get to a lead of 450 and throw us back in) and think he will atleast bat day three out and possibly even into day 4.[DOUBLEPOST=1385135696][/DOUBLEPOST]

Harris is a marvellous bowler as is siddle. Sadly that moustached prick has improved.

Harris is superb. Siddle is better than some give him credit, although he does tend to bowl in patches and can then look very ordinary. Yep, thats the big blow. He had changed his run and was said to be getting results. Saying that, he did still bowl slightly scatter gun at times (Trotts was a poor ball) but pace and bounce will always cause bother.

The main difference between the two attacks was that we have a world class spinner. However, its 1 nil Lyon after 1 innings each.[DOUBLEPOST=1385135795][/DOUBLEPOST]

Out of the last 48 innings England have only past 400 Eight times, and not once in the last 16.

Does that (shocking) stat include run chases that didnt require such a big total though?

 

[sonson]

Still a chance of a draw, aussies bat all day and get a good 500 lead, meaning england need to bat for 6 sessions, it has been done before by england, a chance for top 6-7 batsmen to show some grit !

Not happened for, at the very least, 3 years. England's batting order is very much average at present sadly.

 

[Thurston]

Logon or register to see this image

 

[smoker]

Was the same with the Aussies innings tbf. And as Vaughan said, the pace of the bowling from the Aussies was relentless.

Edit: Some people dont see cricket that way either. Its basically all of England wickets are from class bowling, and all opposition wickets is from poor batting. Just look at Harris' dismissal fo Cool for example.

Cook spent all summer nibbling at deliveries angling across him from Harris. Decent delivery but rocket science it ain't.

 

[Dan The Man]

The timing to take an extra over before lunch was ridiculous England should've dallied around until 2pm so that the Aussies couldn't have got that extra over in.

 

[Idlewild Mackem]

Cook spent all summer nibbling at deliveries angling across him from Harris. Decent delivery but rocket science it ain't.

Spot on. Harris has Cook all tied up far too often, it always just seems like a matter of time before he gets him at the moment.

Just seen the highlights from last night... Johnson is quick, bloody hell is he quick, but far too many of them bottled it completely.

 

[dangermows]

Cook spent all summer nibbling at deliveries angling across him from Harris. Decent delivery but rocket science it ain't.

No it's not rocket science but it is quality bowling. Thinking back that was always the way cook got dismissed before he had his superb spell where we was a run machine.[DOUBLEPOST=1385145946][/DOUBLEPOST]

Spot on. Harris has Cook all tied up far too often, it always just seems like a matter of time before he gets him at the moment.

Just seen the highlights from last night... Johnson is quick, bloody hell is he quick, but far too many of them bottled it completely.

Correct, its good bowling to a known weakness.

Define bottling please cos people in this board churn it out time a d time again when things don't go to plan.[DOUBLEPOST=1385146054][/DOUBLEPOST]

The timing to take an extra over before lunch was ridiculous England should've dallied around until 2pm so that the Aussies couldn't have got that extra over in.

That's a gods point. Probably cos we always get stick for wasting time usually.

 

[smoker]

No it's not ticket science but it is quality bowling. Thinking back that was always the way cook got dismissed before he had his superb spell where we was a run machine.

Pakistan figured him out in 2010, you'd think a top batsman or his coaches would have done something about it by now. To think we laugh at Watson and his constant lbw's

 

[dangermows]

Pakistan figured him out in 2010, you'd think a top batsman or his coaches would have done something about it by now. To think we laugh at Watson and his constant lbw's

He was figured out way before then. Take the five nil out there for example. Always the same. Then he had a patch where he left alone. Now they are bringing it a little closer to him and he can't help but nick off.

Looks like Watson has changed his guard now.

 

[Idlewild Mackem]

Define bottling please cos people in this board churn it out time a d time again when things don't go to plan.

This time I mean it in the sense that there were far too many batsmen turning away, taking their eye off the ball and allowing themselves to be bullied just by his pace. Too many tentative prods at the ball and too much indecision because they were scared of how fast he was banging it down in my opinion.

 

[dangermows]

This time I mean it in the sense that there were far too many batsmen turning away, taking their eye off the ball and allowing themselves to be bullied just by his pace. Too many tentative prods at the ball and too much indecision because they were scared of how fast he was banging it down in my opinion.

Fair enough. I'd still say its more lacking technique than it is bottle but either way they have a big issue against the quick short stuff. They even came out and said that's the way they would attack and either we weren't prepared or just aren't good enough.

Saying that, it looks like Clarke has the same issues, especially with his back troubles.

 

[Idlewild Mackem]

Fair enough. I'd still say its more lacking technique than it is bottle but either way they have a big issue against the quick short stuff. They even came out and said that's the way they would attack and either we weren't prepared or just aren't good enough.

Saying that, it looks like Clarke has the same issues, especially with his back troubles.

Agree that it's a technique thing too, and they've had ages to work on it. The combination of lack of preparation and fear was clear for all to see.

 

[smoker]

He was figured out way before then. Take the five nil out there for example. Always the same. Then he had a patch where he left alone. Now they are bringing it a little closer to him and he can't help but nick off.

Looks like Watson has changed his guard now.

Aye funny that. And Trott still wafting at balls down the leg side. One team done their homework methinks

 

[dangermows]

Agree that it's a technique thing too, and they've had ages to work on it. The combination of lack of preparation and fear was clear for all to see.

Other problem is 90 mph bowlers are few and far between. So when a decent one comes along, on a track with real bounce, we don't seem up to it. Anyway, its early days and lots of twists and turns lie in wait.[DOUBLEPOST=1385147147][/DOUBLEPOST]

Aye funny that. And Trott still wafting at balls down the leg side. One team done their homework methinks

Trott needs to get that out of his game immediately. (Its an odd part if his game cos he doesn't mind a leave usually). The other dismissals which looked particularly poor were those off the spinner. Not sure why we have so much bother against that still.

 

[SR5 1SU]

Not gonna bother watching the highlights tonight.

I Will be watching some of the live action later on though, in the hope we can mount a bit of a fight back. You never know.

 

[dangermows]

Not gonna bother watching the highlights tonight.

I Will be watching some of the live action later on though, in the hope we can mount a bit of a fight back. You never know.

Some good bits of bowling on the highlights marra

 

[ProfessionalMackem]

Not gonna bother watching the highlights tonight.

I Will be watching some of the live action later on though, in the hope we can mount a bit of a fight back. You never know.

Fingers crossed. I know were in the shit. But this Aussie team is as likely to capitulate as much as we did in the 1st innings. A couple of early wickets and you never know.

At least we have some solace in the fact that we can't bat as shit as that again this series. I like the look of Carberry mind. Needs a century soon, to cement his top order position and give a confidence boost too.

 

[SR5 1SU]

Fingers crossed. I know were in the shit. But this Aussie team is as likely to capitulate as much as we did in the 1st innings. A couple of early wickets and you never know.

At least we have some solace in the fact that we can't bat as shit as that again this series. I like the look of Carberry mind. Needs a century soon, to cement his top order position and give a confidence boost too.

Exactly mate. There will be more twists and turns yet, that's the nature of test cricket, especially the ashes.

I just never expected it to turn to shit on that scale against us. But it can soon twist the other way with some good aggressive bowling, here's hoping.

 

[LJS 2013]

They way johnson set carberry up was canny like