mickonline
Winger
Lots of greens……..
19th January Stats
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Qwerty
Striker
They'd be replaced by others though wouldn't they.
El Matador
Striker
Do you think the Omnicron variant has any influence on the above numbers ?
DoctorMick
Striker
Do you think the vaccines don’t?
El Matador
Striker
Yes, I think the do have an influence. I won't however declare that the present numbers are purely down to vaccines. That is a very simplistic approach and not helpful in understanding what is going on currently.
Do you think the Omnicron variant has any influence on the current numbers ?
Gelan
Winger
As it's the dominant strain I'd guess it does have influence.
DoctorMick
Striker
Yes, it seems to be a combination of both the vaccine and omicron being less deadly.
radjee gadjee
Striker
It’s quite telling that when there are massively positive days like yesterday, a certain poster doesn’t come near the thread with his negativity and his “grim” nonsense.
Dobblemackem
Winger
Yet isn’t it amazing how the thickos still say it doesn’t work, because “I still caught covid”
Harry Angstrom
Striker
Of course omicron has a huge huge influence on the matter. However, without triple vaccinations the outcome would have been different. Also the fact that we have had millions of other cases prior to omicron.
The two things we could do that either stopped the transmission or stopped the major symptoms was lockdown and vaccinations. Since July we haven’t had to lockdown because of vaccinations.
As soon as omicron was pinpointed I conjectured that it may be the best thing that could have happened. Looks like I was right.
What was your point of questioning the point about vaccinations being the reason we are in a fantastic position?
What are the current numbers down to if not the vaccinations?
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El Matador
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I don't think i've ever said that vaccinations have not affected the current numbers.
I was questioning vaccinations being put forward as the sole reason for the drop in mortality and hospitalisation numbers compared to last year.
You yourself have pointed out above some other factors involved. You can add masks, social distancing, hand cleansing and changes in social habits into the mix as well.
Harry Angstrom
Striker
I was questioning your stance on it being not that simplistic. It is extremely simplistic. Without vaccinations then we would not be in this position. All the factors you have mentioned are irrelevant when it comes to where we are now.
Agreed. However triple vaccination seems to help.
DoctorMick
Striker
I'm not sure you can add social distancing and social habits in to any comparison with the same time last year given we were in a strict lockdown.
As a known anti-vax loon I suspect your opinion will be taken with a pinch of salt by most people.
bomber
Striker
What reduction? Deaths are up around 250%
DoctorMick
Striker
5.8% of the UK population have had a positive test within the last 28 days, the amount of incidental COVID positive deaths must be bloody high.
You know perfectly well what he means but you can't help being a bellend like usual
bomber
Striker
He's a known anti-vax loon.I read it on here.
Since omnicrom arrived deaths have risen.Are you seriously trying to say otherwise? You need help you Gonk.
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You know exactly what people mean as in compared to the case numbers and deaths but as ever you can't help being a clever fucker, yet you wonder why 99% of the sub forum think you are a cock
rudd
Striker
Clear evidence published today that they do help, massively.
Yet still people harp on about it's just because "omicron is milder". The largest estimate I've seen is that Omicron is 91% less likely to result in death, but that means nothing without taking into account how communicable it is.
Vaccines have had and continue to have a massive impact; on a equal setting if not more so than the actual reduction in morbidity from omicron compared to delta.
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No, it's increased immunity.
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