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University student stabbed

One person chucking bricks at a shield mate.
It's dreadful , but it's not widescale riots
Don't think one person chucking stuff is a riot , no matter how much stuff he chucks 🤷

Happens once in a blue moon šŸ˜€
You see all those bricks on the road in front of the police.... wanna guess how they got there. A clue, that one fella didn't carry them all down the road ;)
I don't think ANYONE can understand how a clearly distressed and struggling bloke saying multiple times that he has been stabbed and can't breathe can be dismissed. Full stop.
He doesn't appear clearly distressed at all. He seems really calm (i mean that could be because hes tired and dying tbf). Which I think adds to the confusion and doubt. That and the lack of blood.

I mean they should be taking any claim of being stabbed seriously. Absolutely. At one point they lift his shirt but don't appear to notice anything even then.
 
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I don't think ANYONE can understand how a clearly distressed and struggling bloke saying multiple times that he has been stabbed and can't breathe can be dismissed. Full stop.

I don't see how your statistic about police restraint has any relevance to the appalling treatment of Henry.

One copper had a bad day? No, 3 coppers failed to exercise a basic dury of care, not to mention normal human decency.

Come on man.
So what's the answer?
Is that coppers care the same as all coppers.

The statistic is to show the angry white men that policing isn't woke. That white men aren't let down and that the police are nicer to black men Cos of this one incident
Because that just aint true
 
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It's been an interesting few days. We've got people who were saying there is no excuse to attack/fight with police, saying they feel sorry for them as the courts are two tier and praising them to the hilt (following the airport incident) now excusing the violence towards them and accusing them of racism and two tiering.

Almost like it's tribal politics again.
 
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Fair point that.

If the victim had been the initial reporter that would've changed it.

Or if they'd just happened upon two people, without any reporting.

As I've said, the victim is sat, calm, with no sign of a stabbing. And the the perpetrator is stood at the scene (very unusual where someone who has stabbed someone would usually flee) still making the allegations.

We can pretend none of this plays in if you wish, but we all know your leanings and angling.

The police did fuck up though. Obviously. But there was no quick assessment of skin colour before prioritising.
No sign of a stabbing? :lol:
I know you like to play the wum on these threads but that's rewriting what the cops were faced with.
He had a stab wound to his face FFS .Were the cops blind?
As for the perp staying at the scene, that's how confident he was that his story would be believed. He was right it was unequivocally believed.
 
No sign of a stabbing? :lol:
I know you like to play the wum on these threads but that's rewriting what the cops were faced with.
He had a stab wound to his face FFS .Were the cops blind?
As for the perp staying at the scene, that's how confident he was that his story would be believed. He was right it was unequivocally believed.
There is no wumming. There's no blood on the vid ive seen. Do you think the copper saw he'd been stabbed and just ignored and said nah, dont think so!? I think youre wumming if thats your push. Not even those vehemently against the police have made such a claim.

They check his body, clearly querying "he says hes been stabbed". Isn't that the wound he died from?. I didn't see any stab wound to his face tbf, so I I'm missed it I'd hold my hands up but it's very obvious the police haven't realised. To say otherwise is bollocks.

They've absolutely fucked up mind.
 
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There is no wumming. There's no blood on the vid ive seen. Do you think the copper saw he'd been stabbed and just ignored and said nah, dont think so!? I think youre wumming if thats your push. Not even those vehemently against the police have made such a claim.

They check his body, clearly querying "he says hes been stabbed". Isn't that the wound he died from?. I didn't see any stab wound to his face tbf, so I I'm missed it I'd hold my hands up but it's very obvious the police haven't realised. To say otherwise is bollocks.

They've absolutely fucked up mind.
There was a slash to his face according to the Judges remarks. But it does not say how severe that was and he could not determine if that wound was intentional. The fatal wound was the one to his chest. It's very possible, if a wound was present on the face, they thought it was from a fight between the two. They clearly couldn't see that he was bleeding from elsewhere in the initial moments.
 
There was a slash to his face according to the Judges remarks. But it does not say how severe that was and he could not determine if that wound was intentional. The fatal wound was the one to his chest. It's very possible, if a wound was present on the face, they thought it was from a fight between the two. They clearly couldn't see that he was bleeding from elsewhere in the initial moments.
Thanks Bob. As I suspected but always nice to separate fact from fiction.
 
This is the 10 second triage chart for the police/first responder at an incident
Looking at the body cam footage, it went out the window
So from that all they've got is not walking and he is talking. They aren't aware of any penetrative wounds. And let's not forget, they are coming to a report of the perp being attacked, who is able to walk, talk and is absolutely fine. From the call there is no mention of the victim being attacked. So they've got ten seconds to determine it's actually the accused who has been attacked and if he is injured etc.

The majority of the anger should be aimed at the lying piece of shit that's murdered the lad.
 
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So from that all they've got is not walking and he is talking. They aren't aware of any penetrative wounds. And let's not forget, they are coming to a report of the perp being attacked, who is able to walk, talk and is absolutely fine. From the call there is no mention of the victim being attacked. So they've got ten seconds to determine it's actually the accused who has been attacked and if he is injured etc.

The majority of the anger should be aimed at the lying piece of shit that's murdered the lad.
I think tbf you can forgive the police for not thinking he'd been stabbed at first, but when he reports it multiple times and they basically mock him and accuse him of lying....that's where my understanding ends. They shouldn't just ignore repeated claims of being stabbed when he's clearly absolutely fucked on the floor.

I have no clue whether race was a factor, and I'm absolutely certain it's the only reason Farage and their mob are inciting the morons, but it's indefensible from the police and the public anger is justified.
 
I think tbf you can forgive the police for not thinking he'd been stabbed at first, but when he reports it multiple times and they basically mock him and accuse him of lying....that's where my understanding ends. They shouldn't just ignore repeated claims of being stabbed when he's clearly absolutely fucked on the floor.

I have no clue whether race was a factor, and I'm absolutely certain it's the only reason Farage and their mob are inciting the morons, but it's indefensible from the police and the public anger is justified.
Yep said that too.

I'm no lover of the police.

But we've had people on here saying they feel sorry for police, after the airpint incident, saying it must be so demoralising as the courts are two tier now suddenly switching to the police are two tier. So transparent.
 
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