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Saudi PIF in talks with potential investors

ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK said:
Did you see what the thick knackers did? They took the cross section design of the stadium that shows the concourse layouts within the stadium and then made an AI image of the stadium as if that's the actual stadium, even though the design is missing a whole stand and the 2 corners! 🤣 🤣

Another lopsided tip! 🤪 🤣

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Couldn't even be arsed to actually put the mock up into Newcastle :lol: Would look lovely with the Elswick flats in the background
 

Mboma said:
By the time it's actually built they could be in the Championship.

They've still barely got a competent board at the club with Howe's nephew as head of recruitment and Jack Ross locking the gates at night! Building a new stadium seems to be taking priority while their top players would all fuck off at the drop of a hat!

Feels like they haven't got a clue tbh, and long may it continue.
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No need to lock gates that sit in front of a brick wall.
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK said:
Did you see what the thick knackers did? They took the cross section design of the stadium that shows the concourse layouts within the stadium and then made an AI image of the stadium as if that's the actual stadium, even though the design is missing a whole stand and the 2 corners! 🤣 🤣

Another lopsided tip! 🤪 🤣

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Be a right chow on getting the ball back every time it goes out for a throw in.
 
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ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK said:
I think that something is the fact the stadium can make decent money on non match days as it would be the Wembley of the North for sure.

What I'd be asking as a mag fan is that if other investors come in then does that potential other revenue go to the mags or does it go to the investors?

Basically Newcastle don't own their own stadium but get free use of it and what they make on match days is theirs. The rest of the time, the money from concerts, International games, many other events etc goes elsewhere.

PIF could then sell the mags if the footy side return is shit but still own the stadium and have NUFC by the balls given they'd only be tenants and PIF still make the money outside of football for many years to come by owning the Wembley of the North.
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Wembley of the North is being built in Manchester, I thought? :lol:
 
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK said:
Did you see what the thick knackers did? They took the cross section design of the stadium that shows the concourse layouts within the stadium and then made an AI image of the stadium as if that's the actual stadium, even though the design is missing a whole stand and the 2 corners! 🤣 🤣

Another lopsided tip! 🤪 🤣

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The Kassam with an ashtray on top?
 
not spavin said:
I've seen that £1bn valuation elsewhere - what's it based on?

£370m bought a bottom-half Premier League team in 2021. In 2026 they're a bottom-half Premier League team with no stadium, now in a league with tight spending restrictions. All of their investment to date has been on players, and is therefore loss-making.

There are no Russians or Emiratis buying clubs anymore, and something like 2/3rds of VC money is now spent on AI projects. I'm not sure the club is worth any more today then when they bought it, and if they can't find a buyer for both the club and stadium then it's arguably worth less.
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Hopkinson was brought in because of his CV - specifically his experience as Head of Global Partnerships at Real likely being the key element.

By cobbling together a load of other businesses they can fluff up the value of the club for a lesser outlay.

Whether this is intended to influence PSR and the turnovery thing or just to make them more saleable remains to be seen
 
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK said:
Did you see what the thick knackers did? They took the cross section design of the stadium that shows the concourse layouts within the stadium and then made an AI image of the stadium as if that's the actual stadium, even though the design is missing a whole stand and the 2 corners! 🤣 🤣

Another lopsided tip! 🤪 🤣

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Even the original cross section design looks to be AI - why is the press box not in line with the halfway line, and why is there only one dugout?

Why is there a footpath to the corner flag?

No architect would make mistakes that basic.
 
cosmicchris00 said:
A lot of talk there again but not much substance.

Most of my mag mates are resolved to the stadium being extended rather than any new build.

The problem is it will look shit unless they can find a magician of an architect.

The Newcastle skyline is already badly compromised but imagine what a further lopsided monstrosity is going to do to it.

They're so embarrassed by the training ground its barely mentioned. Nobody is even sure if there is a viable proposal yet...

As a club, they're caught between two stools IMHO.

- Desperately want to be seen as a massive club but can't afford it.

- Building from the bottom up is the correct way but nobody knows how this actually works for a basket case like the goon army.

Looking forward to a summer sacred cows being sacrificed up there in bisto-land ...
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They CAN afford it. PIF is worth over $1 trillion now.
Do they want to spend it?
Not in my opinion.
A new stadium is the only real solution if the quandary is expanded capacity and turnover. They don’t need a 3rd party assessment from a specialist outfit on that. Drop me £100k and I will give the one sentence, or 10 pages. Answer is the same. Out of Town site.
It would harm the City Centre economy but Leazes Park isn’t happening, nor is Town Moor.
Arena site large enough?
Beyond that it is out of town which, one assumes, means somewhere with road access that is reasonable, as well as being somewhere within close proximity of the Metro system.
None of this is rocket science. It doesn’t take years to fathom. If they wanted to build a new stadium they would, in my opinion, already be out of the ground.
 
not spavin said:
Even the original cross section design looks to be AI - why is the press box not in line with the halfway line, and why is there only one dugout?

Why is there a footpath to the corner flag?

No architect would make mistakes that basic.
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It's by KSS architects and I think they've done other stuff as they're involved in the proposed Brighton women's stadium. When reverse image googling it, I ended up on the Skyscraper City forum and I see they've just bought some of the houses behind the East stand. Below is just a snippet but I'm not sure if you'll be able to see the full article.

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Newcastle United have bought the majority of Grade 1-listed Leazes Terrace for a figure believed to be in the region of £20million-£25million ($26.8m-$33.5m).

The enclosed, ring-shaped Georgian crescent, is adjacent to St James’ Park and its western elevation is directly opposite the East Stand, which has long restricted the expansion of Newcastle’s current ground.

While the obvious and understandable assumption will be that Newcastle are now prioritising remaining at and enlarging St James’ over moving to a new state-of-the-art stadium next door, club sources insist that is not the case.

Insiders are adamant that a final decision has not been made and that both remain live possibilities. However, as The Athletic has long reported, over the past few years several senior figures at Newcastle have expressed internally that the preference would be to move. This purchase has not materially altered that.
 
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Looks like they are going to expand slightly rather than building a super new stadium

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Biffo The Bear said:
They CAN afford it. PIF is worth over $1 trillion now.
Do they want to spend it?
Not in my opinion.
A new stadium is the only real solution if the quandary is expanded capacity and turnover. They don’t need a 3rd party assessment from a specialist outfit on that. Drop me £100k and I will give the one sentence, or 10 pages. Answer is the same. Out of Town site.
It would harm the City Centre economy but Leazes Park isn’t happening, nor is Town Moor.
Arena site large enough?
Beyond that it is out of town which, one assumes, means somewhere with road access that is reasonable, as well as being somewhere within close proximity of the Metro system.
None of this is rocket science. It doesn’t take years to fathom. If they wanted to build a new stadium they would, in my opinion, already be out of the ground.
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I think you're correct on most of that but the reality is somebody just needs to make a decision.

Corporate decisions get more difficult the bigger these organisations are so if you throw in a war on your doorstep as well as your major revenue stream being threatened with disruption... well it's not going to be easy to get someone in PIF towers to commit £1B to a footy club in NE England

It's not even just the readies as what's facing them is a conundrum

- Out of town stadia are well out of fashion

- Any Leazes Park proposal is not going to stand up to scrutiny

- Town Moor, similar to above

- Arena site probably not big enough

Soz, but I look forward to an agonising death by a thousand cuts, with some daft beggar eventually making a complete horlicks of it 😁
 
old supporter said:
The terrace is listed buildings they can't alter it or knock it down there hemmed in at that side of the ground
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If they own them then the right to light isn't an issue if they expand the East Stand. They could use houses facing the East stand as offices for the employees for example. The only issue is that the value of the properties would be worth less.

They've got all but a few properties on the far side according this this.

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Biffo The Bear said:
They CAN afford it. PIF is worth over $1 trillion now.
Do they want to spend it?
Not in my opinion.
A new stadium is the only real solution if the quandary is expanded capacity and turnover. They don’t need a 3rd party assessment from a specialist outfit on that. Drop me £100k and I will give the one sentence, or 10 pages. Answer is the same. Out of Town site.
It would harm the City Centre economy but Leazes Park isn’t happening, nor is Town Moor.
Arena site large enough?
Beyond that it is out of town which, one assumes, means somewhere with road access that is reasonable, as well as being somewhere within close proximity of the Metro system.
None of this is rocket science. It doesn’t take years to fathom. If they wanted to build a new stadium they would, in my opinion, already be out of the ground.
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Arena site would be quite hard for access
 
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK said:
If they own them then the right to light isn't an issue if they expand the East Stand. They could use houses facing the East stand as offices for the employees for example. The only issue is that the value of the properties would be worth less.

They've got all but a few properties on the far side according this this.

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Could they build over them like Spurs did with Warmington House?
 
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