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Southampton spying compendium thread

I'm not playing devil's advocate here but can anyone tell me what actual advantage Southampton got, how would anything the *spy* would have seen influence either of the goals that Southampton scored against Middlesbrough?
He was going to write his report in monkey piss on untanned leather, pin that to the side of a goat and then slaughter the goat ... because he was denied that opportunity they only scored two. Fairly obvious really.
 

I'm not playing devil's advocate here but can anyone tell me what actual advantage Southampton got, how would anything the *spy* would have seen influence either of the goals that Southampton scored against Middlesbrough?
None, in fact heard quite a few former players suggest it would have been minimal at best.

Bin the rule, worse form of cheating going on
 
I think you are underestimating what a shit show this is and the legal implications whatever the EFL decide to do. Somebody is losing out on potentially £140m+.

Personally, if the Skysports interpretation of events is accurate, and the "spy" was filming the entire time from a tree that sits outside private property, then I wouldn't punish Southampton. If your training ground can be viewed (and filmed) easily from a public road then that's your own fault. Put a hedge or a fence up.
It isn’t easily viewable. It’s all private property
 
I'm not playing devil's advocate here but can anyone tell me what actual advantage Southampton got, how would anything the *spy* would have seen influence either of the goals that Southampton scored against Middlesbrough?
The argument could be that Boro's approach to the first leg was revealed, new set pieces, etc., which nullified their attacking potential resulting in Boro not scoring any goals at home making the second leg so much harder.
 
I'm not playing devil's advocate here but can anyone tell me what actual advantage Southampton got, how would anything the *spy* would have seen influence either of the goals that Southampton scored against Middlesbrough?

The advantage may have been in "not scoring".

30 - 40% of goals in the championship come from set pieces.

Watching Boro practice set pieces would give them all they needed to know to help negate them.

Also Boro famously are crap at scoring from open play, so you stop the set pieces you probably stop them scoring.

(It could be after the fact bollocks - but there's been talk after this broke that a number of teams were surprised at how well Southampton negated their set pieces this season)

And again - the issue isn't "how did they benefit?"
The issue is they broke clear rules to try to gain a benefit - that's enough.
 
I'm not playing devil's advocate here but can anyone tell me what actual advantage Southampton got, how would anything the *spy* would have seen influence either of the goals that Southampton scored against Middlesbrough?
Would have probably seen Hackney wasn’t playing, seen set play routines, patterns of play. How they were set up formation wise. Quite possibly have seen what the starting line up was. Seen how Boro were set up to defend against how they expected Southampton to play.
 
None, in fact heard quite a few former players suggest it would have been minimal at best.

Bin the rule, worse form of cheating going on
It is the rule, you can advocate getting rid of it if you want but it has no bearing on this case, and because there's allegedly worse cheating happening is again, immaterial .. legislate and prosecute for that too, whatever it is.
 
It is the rule, you can advocate getting rid of it if you want but it has no bearing on this case, and because there's allegedly worse cheating happening is again, immaterial .. legislate and prosecute for that too, whatever it is.
Think it’s a complete over reaction. I simply don’t think it has much of a bearing on matches and the rule itself is so “thin” that all this wailing about “it must be a sporting sanction” is going to lead to some very disappointed people on here.

Bloke behind a tree with a phone ffs.
Complete head loss
Southampton will be kicked out tomorrow

Boro v Hull Final Tuesday 26th May 19.45
Madness if so :lol:
 
Can’t use the excuse of “not enough time” to change things around now! Forget the inconvenience of all that. This is an extremely serious matter, the only rightful outcome to Boro is they take their place, whatever the new date or even new venue.

Soton are dragging it out for this reason, can’t let the tail wag the dog.
 
Southampton will be kicked out tomorrow

Boro v Hull Final Tuesday 26th May 19.45
I don't think anyone could complain about Southampton getting kicked out but It would be a disgrace to have the final on a Tuesday night. Hull fans would be treated like an absloute second thought just because the EFL are to slow to sort their business. There could be loads of Hull fans out of pocket. Are th EFL going to refund non-refundable costs?
 
The rules changed. There was no set rule when Leeds done it so they got fined under some sprit of the game type rule. The rules were then very clear and put into place. It’s absolutely cheating on Southamptons part
Rule change or not, I’d expect any barrister worth their salt will still tear any penalty that isn’t a fine apart based on that precedent.
 
Think it’s a complete over reaction. I simply don’t think it has much of a bearing on matches and the rule itself is so “thin” that all this wailing about “it must be a sporting sanction” is going to lead to some very disappointed people on here.

Bloke behind a tree with a phone ffs.
Complete head loss

Madness if so :lol:
Its like saying manslaughter is stupid and forgivable because Ian Huntley.

No headloss from what I can see, just people wanting the rules to mean something and seeing them applied meaningfully. That it's 'boro that might benefit is irrelevant.
 
Saints will be fined and Saturdays match will go ahead
Boro are properly milking this situation. The weeping manager . Players still training
All a load of shite desperately trying to make mountain ⛰️ out of a molehill
Saits will win on Saturday as well
Will have fans at Wembley dressed as spies to wind the irrelevant team in Yorkshire up as well !!
 
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