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Southampton spying compendium thread

TartanMackem said:
I think you are underestimating what a shit show this is and the legal implications whatever the EFL decide to do. Somebody is losing out on potentially £140m+.

Personally, if the Skysports interpretation of events is accurate, and the "spy" was filming the entire time from a tree that sits outside private property, then I wouldn't punish Southampton. If your training ground can be viewed (and filmed) easily from a public road then that's your own fault. Put a hedge or a fence up.
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"cheating is okay, if it's easy to do"
 

TartanMackem said:
I think you are underestimating what a shit show this is and the legal implications whatever the EFL decide to do. Somebody is losing out on potentially £140m+.

Personally, if the Skysports interpretation of events is accurate, and the "spy" was filming the entire time from a tree that sits outside private property, then I wouldn't punish Southampton. If your training ground can be viewed (and filmed) easily from a public road then that's your own fault. Put a hedge or a fence up.
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The defence "it was git easy to steal" isn't a defence mate.

The rule states you're not allowed to watch or attempt to watch training 72 hours before a match, it doesn't matter if it's easy or hard.
 
Simple.

Soton breached the rules.
So they won't be allowed to breach Hull.
Probability for Boro much higher than I would have guessed (polymarket).

Soton 54%
Hull 32%
Boro 17%

does not have to add up to 100.
 
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Boro want Hull thrown out of the play off as they were financially cheating and are still under a transfer embargo.
 
summaz said:
SMB will need to shut down for the day if the Bereh don't get a free pass into the PL. Be absolute hell on.

:lol:
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Have to say my opinion has nothing to do with Boro.

They're actually irrelevant in this.

It's Southampton trying to get an unfair advantage that's clearly against the rules that's the issue.

I don't want Boro to be favoured, I want the integrity of the competition to be upheld - whatever that entails.

After our "fun" with Coventry and Tranmere I imagine a few SAFC fans want the right thing to be done.
 
TartanMackem said:
I think you are underestimating what a shit show this is and the legal implications whatever the EFL decide to do. Somebody is losing out on potentially £140m+.

Personally, if the Skysports interpretation of events is accurate, and the "spy" was filming the entire time from a tree that sits outside private property, then I wouldn't punish Southampton. If your training ground can be viewed (and filmed) easily from a public road then that's your own fault. Put a hedge or a fence up.
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Same logic as this;
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Bit of a ridiculous process with the EFL prosecuting the case for a final in their showpiece competition. You could conceivably have an outcome that both they and Southampton think is overly punitive and want to appeal.

The only appropriate sanction is to kick them out. Cut through all the noise and what they tried to do, whether successful or not, was gain a sporting advantage. The punishment for that should only ever be a sporting one. A deferred points deduction, which it can ever only be assumed to be being the ruling is before knowing what league they could be in next season, 1) Doesn’t punish the offence in terms of trying to gain an advantage to get promotion this season 2) may never be implemented if Southampton remain in the prem for decades (Unlikely but possible).

You could also say that with a possible 200 million windfall neither a fine nor a 6 point deduction next time they are in the championship is equal to the value of gaining promotion via an unfair advantage as even if they come back down the fine would be pocket change and they will likely have a team that is far in advance of any competitive points deduction.

Shouldn’t be complicated in my opinion. Kick them out just like they would be if they tried to gain an advantage through naming an ineligible player, or not giving a penalty if a player tries to dive to win one.
 
Zak's Dad said:
Have to say my opinion has nothing to do with Boro.

They're actually irrelevant in this.

It's Southampton trying to get an unfair advantage that's clearly against the rules that's the issue.

I don't want Boro to be favoured, I want the integrity of the competition to be upheld - whatever that entails.

After our "fun" with Coventry and Tranmere I imagine a few SAFC fans want the right thing to be done.
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Same here. All i want is Southampton chucked out. I dont care what happens after that.
 
I'm not playing devil's advocate here but can anyone tell me what actual advantage Southampton got, how would anything the *spy* would have seen influence either of the goals that Southampton scored against Middlesbrough?
 
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