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Southampton spying compendium thread


JL1985 said:
We'll have to take Boro's word for that, lets see what evidence is provided by all parties. Being thrown out of the play offs is the maximum punishment, it doesn't have to be the only punishment. A big fine is the likely outcome and the fact they've said the verdict can't be appealed makes me think Southampton will be okay relatively speaking.
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I’m not sure you would need to take Boro’s word for it. The analyst, who the month before is pictured with Tondra picking up his manager of the month award, is photographed observing a training session with less than 72 hours before KO.

It’s absolutely bang to rights.
 
Harry Angstrom said:
Even if Boro hammered them 5-0 the sanctions for cheating should be applied. It’s the cheating that is the issue not whether they were rubbish at it.
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Yep, problem is EFL don’t have a sanction listed against this exact offence and that’s why they are now having to consider things beyond the fact that the rule has been broken.

I’ve said it previously but the EFL will now be in self preservation mode.

This isn’t about the clubs, fans or the game it’s about them reviewing evidence and coming up with a decision they think will be viewed as proportionate to the crime and therefore give them the best mitigation against the inevitable legal action from either Southampton or the Boro.
 
JC70 said:
Yes, maybe Boro played poorly because Saints were able to nullify them because of the insight into their tactics, set up, line up, set pieces gained from spying. It's an unquantifiable and a moot point.
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If conway could hit a barn door in the first leg the tie would have been over . They were by far the better team in that leg
 
Irishblackcat said:
If conway could hit a barn door in the first leg the tie would have been over . They were by far the better team in that leg
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Summed up their whole season really. Looked great at times then a complete mess. Kept flitting between the two it seemed.
Visiting owl said:
It's increasingly looking like they might be kicked out, I would be stunned if they did.

Be lawyers rubbing their hands all ower!
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aye, pretty certain they'll go the journey.
 
FoldingStars said:
Man City and Chelsea were charged by the Premier League were they not? two different bodies with different rules and punishments it’s like comparing a sentence from America to those in the UK.

Also they were charged with very different breaches so again you can’t compare them. It’s a stand alone charge that no club have been charged with since the new updated rules have been formed. This is the case that any future spy issues that RFL find themselves in will go back to so a fine will open the flood gates.

Sky are saying a decision by Tuesday and possible chance of the match being delayed which means Wembley may not be available. If it ends up Hull and Boro then surely a northern stadium has to be used, yes they’ll get 15k less tickets but both average attendances would just about fit in our Stadium and it means they’d not need hotels just travel. EFL would probably have it at Cardiff though just to sell as many tickets as possible.
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Theyre different bodies awarding the penalties, but theyre from the same footballing pyramid. To say its like comparing penalties between UK and USA is wrong imo.

You're right theyre entirely different breaches. But id argue, man city in particular, gained a far greater advantage. Not sure why we'd be more lenient because its financial doping.

If its proven to be a one off spying mission from a car park that anyone can access i personally think itd be crackers to expel them from the competition. Fine and points or suspended point penalty far more appropriate.
 
10 Gary Rowells said:
I think you are correct. Boro have clearly been wronged. Whether Southampton would have won without cheating are a better side is irrelevant. I can't get my head round why Southampton would do this. Originally I thought that the EFL would go for a fine but it increasingly looks like Boro will be allowed to play the final and that would be the correct result. For once a football authority would be acting with the right haste and selecting the correct sanction. Southampton have acted like utter fools from what we can see.
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Cheats not fools.

Reinildo was foolish when he kicked a Villa player in the balls but he wasn’t cheating😉

There is a difference.
 
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