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UFO's

Only in the grey matter area.


Trump would have been bragging about it throughout both his terms.

"We have the most amazing alien spaceships here in America. Nobody knows more about alien spaceships than I do and I've got to tell you, ours are the best."


Several people with book and movie deals who are regulars on the convention circuit...

Not at all, Major Jesse Marcel who attended the crash site and was later forced to admit it was the remains of a weather balloon spoke out years later when he felt it was safe to talk (he and his family had been threatened with repercussions if they spoke out about what had really happened).

Lieutenant Walter Haut completed a signed affidavit for circulation after this death which is below.

No book deals, just two older men who served their country telling the truth about what they saw and with no need at all to lie.

2002 SEALED AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER G. HAUT
DATE: December 26, 2002
WITNESS: Chris Xxxxx
NOTARY: Beverlee Morgan
(1) My name is Walter G. Haut.
(2) I was born on June 2, 1922.
(3) My address is 1405 W. 7th Street, Roswell, NM 88203
(4) I am retired.
(5) In July, 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air Base in Roswell, New Mexico, serving as the base Public Information Officer. I had spent the 4th of July weekend (Saturday, the 5th, and Sunday, the 6th) at my private residence about 10 miles north of the base, which was located south of town.
(6) I was aware that someone had reported the remains of a downed vehicle by midmorning after my return to duty at the base on Monday, July 7. I was aware that Major Jesse A. Marcel, head of intelligence, was sent by the base commander, Col. William Blanchard, to investigate.
(7) By late in the afternoon that same day, I would learn that additional civilian reports came in regarding a second site just north of Roswell. I would spend the better part of the day attending to my regular duties hearing little if anything more.
(8) On Tuesday morning, July 8, I would attend the regularly scheduled staff meeting at 7:30 a.m. Besides Blanchard, Marcel; CIC Capt. Sheridan Cavitt; Col. James I. Hopkins, the operations officer; Major Patrick Saunders, the base adjutant; Major Isadore Brown, the personnel officer; Lt. Col. Ulysses S. Nero, the supply officer; and from Carswell AAF in Fort Worth, Texas, Blanchard’s boss, Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey and his chief of staff, Col. Thomas J. DuBose were also in attendance. The main topic of discussion was reported by Marcel and Cavitt regarding an extensive debris field in Lincoln County approx. 75 miles NW of Roswell. A preliminary briefing was provided by Blanchard about the second site approx. 40 miles north of town. Samples of wreckage were passed around the table. It was unlike any material I had or have ever seen in my life. Pieces, which resembled metal foil, paper thin yet extremely strong, and pieces with unusual markings along their length were handled from man to man, each voicing their opinion. No one was able to identify the crash debris.
(9) One of the main concerns discussed at the meeting was whether we should go public or not with the discovery. Gen. Ramey proposed a plan, which I believe originated with his bosses at the Pentagon. Attention needed to be diverted from the more important site north of town by acknowledging the other location. Too many civilians were already involved and the press already was informed. I was not completely informed how this would be accomplished.
(10) At approximately 9:30 a.m. Col. Blanchard phoned my office and dictated the press release of having in our possession a flying disc, coming from a ranch northwest of Roswell, and Marcel flying the material to higher headquarters. I was to deliver the news release to radio stations KGFL and KSWS, and newspapers the Daily Record and the Morning Dispatch.
(11) By the time the news had hit the wire services, my office was inundated with phone calls from around the world. Messages stacked up on my desk, and rather than deal with the media concern, Col. Blanchard suggested that I go home and “hide out.”
(12) Before leaving the base, Col. Blanchard took me personally to Building 84, a B-29 hangar located on the east side of the tarmac. Upon first approaching the building, I observed that it was under heavy guard both outside and inside. Once inside, I was permitted from a safe distance to first observe the object just recovered north of town. It was approx. 12 to 15 feet in length, not quite as wide, about 6 feet high, and more of an egg shape. Lighting was poor, but its surface did appear metallic. No windows, portholes, wings, tail section, or landing gear were visible.
(13) Also from a distance, I was able to see a couple of bodies under a canvas tarpaulin. Only the heads extended beyond the covering, and I was not able to make out any features. The heads did appear larger than normal and the contour of the canvas over the bodies suggested the size of a 10-yearold child. At a later date in Blanchard’s office, he would extend his arm about 4 feet above the floor to indicate the height.
(14) I was informed of a temporary morgue set up to accommodate the recovered bodies.
(15) I was informed that the wreckage was not “hot” [radioactive].
(16) Upon his return from Fort Worth, Major Marcel described to me taking pieces of the wreckage to Gen. Ramey’s office and after returning from a map room, finding the remains of a weather balloon and radar kite substituted while he was out of the room. Marcel was very upset over this situation. We would not discuss it again.
(17) I would be allowed to make at least one visit to one of the recovery sites during the military cleanup. I would return to the base with some of the wreckage which I would display in my office.
(18) I was aware two separate teams would return to each site months later for periodic searches for any remaining evidence.
(19) I am convinced that what I personally observed was some type of craft and its crew from outer space.
(20) I have not been paid nor given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection.
THIS STATEMENT IS TO REMAIN SEALED AND SECURED UNTIL THE TIME OF MY DEATH, AT WHICH TIME MY SURVIVING FAMILY WILL DETERMINE ITS DISPOSITION.

Signed: Walter G. Haut Signature
Witnessed by: Chris Xxxxxx
Dated: December 26, 2002
 
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Not at all, Major Jesse Marcel who attended the crash site and was later forced to admit it was the remains of a weather balloon spoke out years later when he felt it was safe to talk (he and his family had been threatened with repercussions if they spoke out about what had really happened).

Lieutenant Walter Haut completed a signed affidavit for circulation after this death which is below.

No book deals, just two older men who served their country telling the truth about what they saw and with no need at all to lie.

2002 SEALED AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER G. HAUT
DATE: December 26, 2002
WITNESS: Chris Xxxxx
NOTARY: Beverlee Morgan
(1) My name is Walter G. Haut.
(2) I was born on June 2, 1922.
(3) My address is 1405 W. 7th Street, Roswell, NM 88203
(4) I am retired.
(5) In July, 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air Base in Roswell, New Mexico, serving as the base Public Information Officer. I had spent the 4th of July weekend (Saturday, the 5th, and Sunday, the 6th) at my private residence about 10 miles north of the base, which was located south of town.
(6) I was aware that someone had reported the remains of a downed vehicle by midmorning after my return to duty at the base on Monday, July 7. I was aware that Major Jesse A. Marcel, head of intelligence, was sent by the base commander, Col. William Blanchard, to investigate.
(7) By late in the afternoon that same day, I would learn that additional civilian reports came in regarding a second site just north of Roswell. I would spend the better part of the day attending to my regular duties hearing little if anything more.
(8) On Tuesday morning, July 8, I would attend the regularly scheduled staff meeting at 7:30 a.m. Besides Blanchard, Marcel; CIC Capt. Sheridan Cavitt; Col. James I. Hopkins, the operations officer; Major Patrick Saunders, the base adjutant; Major Isadore Brown, the personnel officer; Lt. Col. Ulysses S. Nero, the supply officer; and from Carswell AAF in Fort Worth, Texas, Blanchard’s boss, Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey and his chief of staff, Col. Thomas J. DuBose were also in attendance. The main topic of discussion was reported by Marcel and Cavitt regarding an extensive debris field in Lincoln County approx. 75 miles NW of Roswell. A preliminary briefing was provided by Blanchard about the second site approx. 40 miles north of town. Samples of wreckage were passed around the table. It was unlike any material I had or have ever seen in my life. Pieces, which resembled metal foil, paper thin yet extremely strong, and pieces with unusual markings along their length were handled from man to man, each voicing their opinion. No one was able to identify the crash debris.
(9) One of the main concerns discussed at the meeting was whether we should go public or not with the discovery. Gen. Ramey proposed a plan, which I believe originated with his bosses at the Pentagon. Attention needed to be diverted from the more important site north of town by acknowledging the other location. Too many civilians were already involved and the press already was informed. I was not completely informed how this would be accomplished.
(10) At approximately 9:30 a.m. Col. Blanchard phoned my office and dictated the press release of having in our possession a flying disc, coming from a ranch northwest of Roswell, and Marcel flying the material to higher headquarters. I was to deliver the news release to radio stations KGFL and KSWS, and newspapers the Daily Record and the Morning Dispatch.
(11) By the time the news had hit the wire services, my office was inundated with phone calls from around the world. Messages stacked up on my desk, and rather than deal with the media concern, Col. Blanchard suggested that I go home and “hide out.”
(12) Before leaving the base, Col. Blanchard took me personally to Building 84, a B-29 hangar located on the east side of the tarmac. Upon first approaching the building, I observed that it was under heavy guard both outside and inside. Once inside, I was permitted from a safe distance to first observe the object just recovered north of town. It was approx. 12 to 15 feet in length, not quite as wide, about 6 feet high, and more of an egg shape. Lighting was poor, but its surface did appear metallic. No windows, portholes, wings, tail section, or landing gear were visible.
(13) Also from a distance, I was able to see a couple of bodies under a canvas tarpaulin. Only the heads extended beyond the covering, and I was not able to make out any features. The heads did appear larger than normal and the contour of the canvas over the bodies suggested the size of a 10-yearold child. At a later date in Blanchard’s office, he would extend his arm about 4 feet above the floor to indicate the height.
(14) I was informed of a temporary morgue set up to accommodate the recovered bodies.
(15) I was informed that the wreckage was not “hot” [radioactive].
(16) Upon his return from Fort Worth, Major Marcel described to me taking pieces of the wreckage to Gen. Ramey’s office and after returning from a map room, finding the remains of a weather balloon and radar kite substituted while he was out of the room. Marcel was very upset over this situation. We would not discuss it again.
(17) I would be allowed to make at least one visit to one of the recovery sites during the military cleanup. I would return to the base with some of the wreckage which I would display in my office.
(18) I was aware two separate teams would return to each site months later for periodic searches for any remaining evidence.
(19) I am convinced that what I personally observed was some type of craft and its crew from outer space.
(20) I have not been paid nor given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection.
THIS STATEMENT IS TO REMAIN SEALED AND SECURED UNTIL THE TIME OF MY DEATH, AT WHICH TIME MY SURVIVING FAMILY WILL DETERMINE ITS DISPOSITION.

Signed: Walter G. Haut Signature
Witnessed by: Chris Xxxxxx
Dated: December 26, 2002

So it was some radioactive test balloon, like a new delivery system for an atom bomb or dirty bomb, or a nuclear powered blimp, and he didn't have clearance to know what it was but caught a glimpse of some crash test dummies? OK.
 
It's funny that you're looking for the profit in the conspiracy, but not for the profit in the conspiracy-touters.
Imagine a world like ours, under the influence and control of Corporations and Governments, going back hundreds of years....

Now, imagine they know something we don't, something. That would hurt there profits and manipulative BS. Is it that far a leap mate?

Have you ever knowingly withheld or denied information that benefits you? I know have.
 
Imagine a world like ours, under the influence and control of Corporations and Governments, going back hundreds of years....

Now, imagine they know something we don't, something. That would hurt there profits and manipulative BS. Is it that far a leap mate?

Have you ever knowingly withheld or denied information that benefits you? I know have.

Witheld or denied information like "I have never seen any evidence that UFOs are aliens but I'm going to say that I have so that I can make a living selling books, getting YouTube clicks, selling DVDs, and travelling around the convention circuit"?

I find that a lot less difficult to believe than hundreds of years of different governments and private companies and all their employees all around the world related to this subject (even during wars between these countries) managing to keep this a secret.

In the first case, it's one guy lying about what he's seen, and not needing anyone else to back him up on it.

In the second case it's millions of people in a multi-century global conspiracy.

The probabilities of likelihood are not even close.

And that's even before you consider the physics aspects of the probability we've been visited, or why nobody has caught with telescopes a glimpse of alien spaceships mining the precious resources of all the other planets and moons in the solar system that are far more abundant of resources than Earth and without the infestation of life or danger of being intercepted.
 
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So it was some radioactive test balloon, like a new delivery system for an atom bomb or dirty bomb, or a nuclear powered blimp, and he didn't have clearance to know what it was but caught a glimpse of some crash test dummies? OK.

The US army/air force didn't start using crash test dummies until 1949/1950 therefore you can exclude that.
 
Why do governments spend all this money on researching UAPs/UFOs when they could just ask some stoned hippy to clear it all up for them?

Why do governments sped all this money on researching UAPs/UFOs when they could just ask some pilled-up tinfoil hatter to clear it up that it's obviously aliens?
 
So Buzz Aldrin saw something and didn't know what it was and Mission Control didn't know what it was either.

What was it ?
They confirmed that the S-IV booster was on the correct course, which was nowhere near where Buzz Aldrin was watching this object. Later on when the Soviets opened up, they think it may have been a unmanned spacecraft (Luna 15)to get to the moon, before Apollo 11. Only thing wrong with this is the timing of the Soviet mission, plus it went head first and made a nice crater on the moon, just after Eagle took off. Buzz Aldrin has always said it was not Luna 15. So still a unknown sighting.
 
Expectations are higher for these as these were the ones that have specifically been requested. 8 of these are said to be reveleaed on the new Corbell documentary which I think is released today.

Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet reckons the one above in unexplainable, yet some old fella with a Laptop from currys and bit of software has just explained it, seems Rear Admiral Galladaudet with a PhD is just as easy to fool as the rest of us, who of thunk it eh ?

:lol:
 
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