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Whoever it was who wanted to keep it a secret since Roswell times clearly now wants information out there.

You dont go from people being silenced or bumped off to the US military releasing videos and government itself holding live hearings on the subject without a decision being made somewhere. Something has changed and that was before Trump got involved.

I suspect the order is something like.....

Hint that these anti gravity craft are real (ongoing)
Confirm they are real as human designed and operated.
Life is found on another planet using some fancy telescope or fossil found on Mars etc.
Let that settle in for a good few years
Then the big one (if its even remotely true) about aliens which I think is at least 10 or 15 years away.
 

Zidane said:
Whoever it was who wanted to keep it a secret since Roswell times clearly now wants information out there.

You dont go from people being silenced or bumped off to the US military releasing videos and government itself holding live hearings on the subject without a decision being made somewhere. Something has changed and that was before Trump got involved.

I suspect the order is something like.....

Hint that these anti gravity craft are real (ongoing)
Confirm they are real as human designed and operated.
Life is found on another planet using some fancy telescope or fossil found on Mars etc.
Let that settle in for a good few years
Then the big one (if its even remotely true) about aliens which I think is at least 10 or 15 years away.
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There's competing elements within the various three letter agencies about what should come out, they all respect national security but the fact we are not alone is the basic message some pretty influential people now want out there.

Stephen Greer believes the wet works (killings) are carried out by private contractors who are free from FOI legislation. In an interview yesterday he has said that he has passes the names of individuals who carry these activities out to the Govt.

Crazy as it is im thinking full disclosure in 2026. The subject is now being discussed in the mainstream US media without the usual stigma and jokes being cracked.
 
Zidane said:
Whoever it was who wanted to keep it a secret since Roswell times clearly now wants information out there.

You dont go from people being silenced or bumped off to the US military releasing videos and government itself holding live hearings on the subject without a decision being made somewhere. Something has changed and that was before Trump got involved.

I suspect the order is something like.....

Hint that these anti gravity craft are real (ongoing)
Confirm they are real as human designed and operated.
Life is found on another planet using some fancy telescope or fossil found on Mars etc.
Let that settle in for a good few years
Then the big one (if its even remotely true) about aliens which I think is at least 10 or 15 years away.
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I suspect the order is something like...

Sci fi movies in the 50's becoming popular
The cold war making the US give hints that they've got technology that Russia doesn't
The X-Files becoming a hit
The internet leading to tinfoil hatters communing virtually
Con artists recognising there's money to made in the books/videos/conventions circuit
 
The Apollo and Gemini photos and transcripts have to be my personal favourite takeaway from this first release, absolutel gold dust to see and read about this. It turns out NASA has been keeping a lid on some things, gee what a suprise.

Its great that mainstream is now talking about all this without the sniggering, jokes and usual stigma, its now a very serious conversation.

Hopefully more people will now see that its ok to talk about this now and will come forward.

The next tranche will contain the 46 videos that Luna requested but its been reported that there are tens of millions of classified documents on this subject so this could all take a while.

Also no suprise to hear reported that the CIA is still not complying and as yet has now passed anything for release, that will surely come to a head as the revelations continue to keep coming.
 
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andy78 said:
The Apollo ones are definitely interesting, as it obviously can't be satellites and there's no possible atmospheric explanation.
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I thought they, or something very similar, were already out there. I’m sure I’ve seen something like that before.
 
If there is really any hard evidence of extra terrestrial intelligence, surely the yanks would have already released it.
They would look bad if somewhere like Russia or China released before them. Or do the yanks have exclusivity where ET is concerned ?
 
tonyfromalnwick said:
If there is really any hard evidence of extra terrestrial intelligence, surely the yanks would have already released it.
They would look bad if somewhere like Russia or China released before them. Or do the yanks have exclusivity where ET is concerned ?
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In congressional hearings several people have said 100% that there were recovered craft and biological at Roswell. It was classified at a higher level than the Manhattan project under the Fepartment of Energy. Investigators who have spent decades researching Roswell have collected witness statements from peole who say bodies.

I was sceptical about what would be released but im about 75% that Roswell will be declassified at some point with the admission that we arent alone.
 
riffraff said:
Jeez you must be very well connected.
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Only in the grey matter area.
tonyfromalnwick said:
If there is really any hard evidence of extra terrestrial intelligence, surely the yanks would have already released it.
They would look bad if somewhere like Russia or China released before them. Or do the yanks have exclusivity where ET is concerned ?
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Trump would have been bragging about it throughout both his terms.

"We have the most amazing alien spaceships here in America. Nobody knows more about alien spaceships than I do and I've got to tell you, ours are the best."
skullmeister said:
In congressional hearings several people have said 100% that there were recovered craft and biological at Roswell. It was classified at a higher level than the Manhattan project under the Fepartment of Energy. Investigators who have spent decades researching Roswell have collected witness statements from peole who say bodies.

I was sceptical about what would be released but im about 75% that Roswell will be declassified at some point with the admission that we arent alone.
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Several people with book and movie deals who are regulars on the convention circuit...
 
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skullmeister said:
The Apollo and Gemini photos and transcripts have to be my personal favourite takeaway from this first release, absolutel gold dust to see and read about this. It turns out NASA has been keeping a lid on some things, gee what a suprise.

Its great that mainstream is now talking about all this without the sniggering, jokes and usual stigma, its now a very serious conversation.

Hopefully more people will now see that its ok to talk about this now and will come forward.

The next tranche will contain the 46 videos that Luna requested but its been reported that there are tens of millions of classified documents on this subject so this could all take a while.

Also no suprise to hear reported that the CIA is still not complying and as yet has now passed anything for release, that will surely come to a head as the revelations continue to keep coming.
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The Mercury, Gemini and Apollo mission transcripts and background, have been available for some time now. They are in book form and have been online for years. Apollo 11: The NASA Mission Reports Vol 1: Apogee Books Space Series 5: Godwin, Robert: 9781896522531: Amazon.com: Books
The transcripts are unedited and are from the originals. Buzz Aldrin has said for years he saw something and asked mission control, if it was the Stage IV booster? He got told by MC it wasn't and they didn't know what it was. It's mentioned on page 3 report @andy78 posted on the previous page.
 
safcuntilidie said:
Buzz Aldrin has said for years he saw something and asked mission control, if it was the Stage IV booster? He got told by MC it wasn't and they didn't know what it was. It's mentioned on page 3 report @andy78 posted on the previous page.
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Was it an alien spacecraft though ?

99% of ALL UFO sightings are solved as not aliens from other planets. 99% of ALL those people who report them, from all walks of life, including the very best of us were fooled by a natural event or known phenomenon. Think about that. All these people that saw stuff in the military (which is where a significant volumes of reports arose from) 99% of them were fooled by natural, known things.
 
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skullmeister said:
Going to be interesting to see what drops, not expecting the Roswell files but who knows 🤞
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Phillip J. Corso "The Day After Roswell"

The Corporations have been keeping us down for over half a century. The tech is there but those bastards only care about money, sellfsih disgusting bastards. Humanity could have been lifted out of Fossil fuel dependance decafes ago.

But where's the Progit in that?

As I said. Disgusting greedy bastards that need to be pulbicly hanged. If anyone fancies watching that.
 
skullmeister said:
In congressional hearings several people have said 100% that there were recovered craft and biological at Roswell. It was classified at a higher level than the Manhattan project under the Fepartment of Energy. Investigators who have spent decades researching Roswell have collected witness statements from peole who say bodies.

I was sceptical about what would be released but im about 75% that Roswell will be declassified at some point with the admission that we arent alone.
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I think it's important to realise virtually all congressional hearings were based on hearsay. Take David Grusch, his entire evidence was based on hearsay
 
qixman said:
I think it's important to realise virtually all congressional hearings were based on hearsay. Take David Grusch, his entire evidence was based on hearsay
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He had identified (and named in a SCIF) more than 30 first hand witnesses, both hostile and willing, who could be invited or subpoened to testify.

Two major problems, they are all locked down by NDA's and at least two of those are dead or missing. Others who have testified have faced threats and intimidation.

Major McCasland, a hostile witnesses has disappeared and Matthew Sullivan 'committed' suicide after agreeing to testify before Congress and before he had the chance to speak.

Im not sure which of the other dead or missing folk were known to Grusch and Congress.
 
gards2 said:
Phillip J. Corso "The Day After Roswell"

The Corporations have been keeping us down for over half a century. The tech is there but those bastards only care about money, sellfsih disgusting bastards. Humanity could have been lifted out of Fossil fuel dependance decafes ago.

But where's the Progit in that?

As I said. Disgusting greedy bastards that need to be pulbicly hanged. If anyone fancies watching that.
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It's funny that you're looking for the profit in the conspiracy, but not for the profit in the conspiracy-touters.
 
safcuntilidie said:
The Mercury, Gemini and Apollo mission transcripts and background, have been available for some time now. They are in book form and have been online for years. Apollo 11: The NASA Mission Reports Vol 1: Apogee Books Space Series 5: Godwin, Robert: 9781896522531: Amazon.com: Books
The transcripts are unedited and are from the originals. Buzz Aldrin has said for years he saw something and asked mission control, if it was the Stage IV booster? He got told by MC it wasn't and they didn't know what it was. It's mentioned on page 3 report @andy78 posted on the previous page.
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So Buzz Aldrin saw something and didn't know what it was and Mission Control didn't know what it was either.

What was it ?
 
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