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Rampant negativity


In the scale of where we were, in the scale of where we are…..how about we talk about in the scale of where we need to be.

Now we have achieved promotion it’s on to the next step - survival. Which we have done. But that comes in two parts. The second part is making sure we never go down again. That means embedding ourselves in this league for the long term future. That means getting ourselves up to the level of the rest of the league clubs like Crystal Palace, Brentford, Everton, Fulham, Brighton, Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest, West Ham United and Bournemouth. Even Wolves. Every one of those clubs are streets ahead of us. Every one is bigger and better than us. Basically we are them several years ago when they first came up. We have many more years of growth before we can say we are on the same level of Wolves or Aston Villa. So to that end any performance and any point is to be lauded. Home or away.

So when we set ourselves hopes, dreams and aspirations on becoming the next Fulham or Aston Villa as I do and you feel that we are still struggling to get there, it’s a bit of a sickner.

It was discussed about having years in the lower leagues if it meant having the success of Leicester City when they were in the Premier League. But for me I’d spend years in the lower leagues if it meant having their time when they were as good as clubs like Fulham. I’d have that over the FA Cup or League title in a nanosecond.
 
Randy Savage said:
WTF is it with some folk on here, and some at the match.

We’ve stayed up with three games to spare, we’ve won plenty of games at home this year, we have a squad worth a good few bob, and we seemingly have scope to invest again in the summer.

Are we playing brilliantly? No. Could we do with a bit more creativity and threat? Yes. Are we going to miss out on Europe? Probably.

However, we have done brilliantly all things considered, and Regis is not an idiot. He’ll know what needs to be done in the summer and he will do his upmost to address our deficiencies.

Let’s have a bit of positivity man. Christ, some on here must be gobbling Prozac like they’re in short supply.

Oh and we beat the scum twice.
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We’ve been safe ever since we got 35 points
 
contrarian said:
Rampant😄😄😄
Told you a million times not to exaggerate
Yes people are disappointed with the result, with certain players, with team tactics
No need to turn into some us and them
Or would you prefer a group hug, followed by a rousing chorus of kumbaya, and rejoicing whether you like it or not.
It’s a message board FFS
We have done well beyond expectations, of that there is no question
The last few games, FA cup exit, have been dispiriting to say the least. The football is not pretty to watch. There’s no getting away from that unless the philosophy is unless it’s positive keep quiet.. the North Korea option
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Told you a million times not to exaggerate 🤣 🤣 ...self awarness?
 
Randy Savage said:
I think it’s a reflection of modern society tbh.

People want things and they want them now. If they don’t get them, it’s shite.

No patience. No perspective.
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Aye and unfortunately PL is that and more. Unless you're at the very top there's always going to be someone pays and offers more to players who do well for us.

Sport is a cycle. Enjoy it while it lasts. This is probably as good as it gets for us for a while.
 
ShieldsBlackCat2015 said:
In the scale of where we were, in the scale of where we are…..how about we talk about in the scale of where we need to be.

Now we have achieved promotion it’s on to the next step - survival. Which we have done. But that comes in two parts. The second part is making sure we never go down again. That means embedding ourselves in this league for the long term future. That means getting ourselves up to the level of the rest of the league clubs like Crystal Palace, Brentford, Everton, Fulham, Brighton, Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest, West Ham United and Bournemouth. Even Wolves. Every one of those clubs are streets ahead of us. Every one is bigger and better than us. Basically we are them several years ago when they first came up. We have many more years of growth before we can say we are on the same level of Wolves or Aston Villa. So to that end any performance and any point is to be lauded. Home or away.

So when we set ourselves hopes, dreams and aspirations on becoming the next Fulham or Aston Villa as I do and you feel that we are still struggling to get there, it’s a bit of a sickner.

It was discussed about having years in the lower leagues if it meant having the success of Leicester City when they were in the Premier League. But for me I’d spend years in the lower leagues if it meant having their time when they were as good as clubs like Fulham. I’d have that over the FA Cup or League title in a nanosecond.
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Randy Savage said:
I think it’s a reflection of modern society tbh.

People want things and they want them now. If they don’t get them, it’s shite.

No patience. No perspective.
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Those people who want it now are just being ambitious and demanding high standards - not in their own life or things that they're responsible for, but for something they have no control over which allows them to be critical and blame others.
 
Randy Savage said:
WTF is it with some folk on here, and some at the match.

We’ve stayed up with three games to spare, we’ve won plenty of games at home this year, we have a squad worth a good few bob, and we seemingly have scope to invest again in the summer.

Are we playing brilliantly? No. Could we do with a bit more creativity and threat? Yes. Are we going to miss out on Europe? Probably.

However, we have done brilliantly all things considered, and Regis is not an idiot. He’ll know what needs to be done in the summer and he will do his upmost to address our deficiencies.

Let’s have a bit of positivity man. Christ, some on here must be gobbling Prozac like they’re in short supply.

Oh and we beat the scum twice.
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Its utterly bizarre, isn't it? Best season in my lifetime and I've got people moaning.
 
Randy Savage said:
WTF is it with some folk on here, and some at the match.

We’ve stayed up with three games to spare, we’ve won plenty of games at home this year, we have a squad worth a good few bob, and we seemingly have scope to invest again in the summer.

Are we playing brilliantly? No. Could we do with a bit more creativity and threat? Yes. Are we going to miss out on Europe? Probably.

However, we have done brilliantly all things considered, and Regis is not an idiot. He’ll know what needs to be done in the summer and he will do his upmost to address our deficiencies.

Let’s have a bit of positivity man. Christ, some on here must be gobbling Prozac like they’re in short supply.

Oh and we beat the scum twice.
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Totally agree with everything you say.
Social media in particular is vile for keyboard warriors and knee-jerk reactions some of who have never been to a game in their life but have a right to spout idiotic nonsense. I would suggest that true fans appreciate the bigger picture and know what a good season we have had.

We’re mathematically and comfortably safe, just 4 points from top 6. Every Sunderland supporter on the planet would have taken that before the season started!

Only saw highlights yesterday but I personally thought Ballard's red was harsh. Wolves are very poor and we would have beaten them if not for a silly red card. We dug in so happy with a point at the end. Wolves had no pressure and that showed, a point on the road is always good in my book as is undefeated. Some of the reaction - it's like we've been stuffed 5-0 again! Embarrassing.

What an amazing season we’ve had. Best for decades. Congratulations to the team and all concerned on safety and the season.
 
ShieldsBlackCat2015 said:
In the scale of where we were, in the scale of where we are…..how about we talk about in the scale of where we need to be.

Now we have achieved promotion it’s on to the next step - survival. Which we have done. But that comes in two parts. The second part is making sure we never go down again. That means embedding ourselves in this league for the long term future. That means getting ourselves up to the level of the rest of the league clubs like Crystal Palace, Brentford, Everton, Fulham, Brighton, Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest, West Ham United and Bournemouth. Even Wolves. Every one of those clubs are streets ahead of us. Every one is bigger and better than us. Basically we are them several years ago when they first came up. We have many more years of growth before we can say we are on the same level of Wolves or Aston Villa. So to that end any performance and any point is to be lauded. Home or away.

So when we set ourselves hopes, dreams and aspirations on becoming the next Fulham or Aston Villa as I do and you feel that we are still struggling to get there, it’s a bit of a sickner.

It was discussed about having years in the lower leagues if it meant having the success of Leicester City when they were in the Premier League. But for me I’d spend years in the lower leagues if it meant having their time when they were as good as clubs like Fulham. I’d have that over the FA Cup or League title in a nanosecond.
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I'm not sure aiming to be like Wolves is a good idea when they are already relegated.
 
japs said:
A few where I was stood today were so negative, mostly just too many beers I put it down to though...
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I've been told on here its only the non-attending fans who whinge.

We've done superb this season.

The whingers were exactly the same when we had two 7th place finishing. Its never good enough.

I don't mind it being constructive. There's no doubt we make mistakes, but to err is human.

Can we improve, of course. We can also get worse.
 
Onlyfoolsrushin said:
I've been told on here its only the non-attending fans who whinge.

We've done superb this season.

The whingers were exactly the same when we had two 7th place finishing. Its never good enough.

I don't mind it being constructive. There's no doubt we make mistakes, but to err is human.

Can we improve, of course. We can also get worse.
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People get carried away too easily. Which is fine. As long as you retain perspective. Too many will genuinely have thought Top 6 after the start we had. The vast majority knew squad depth, AFCON and the nature of a 38 game season would catch up at some stage.
 
Its also worth pointing out that not only have we achieved survival with 3 games to spare, we've done it in the most competitive Premier League for over 20 years.

West Ham already have 36 points with 3 games left to play. That total would have kept them up in 21 of the last 25 years.

It's been a remarkable season.
 
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