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The commodification of televised football

Stormo said:
It’s disgraceful really.

£22 sky sports
£30 tnt
£25 dazn
£11 amazon

£90 a month if you want to watch premier league, football league, national league and champions league/fa cup. Thats before any broadband you’re paying for.
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Add your subscription and broadband charges on top of that.

What annoys me is you are paying that money but you can only watch what they show. You can't watch your team if it's a 3pm Saturday. Most times it's the big six on live.
 

HellsBells said:
Cricket is the same.

You used to get kids playing things like cricket on the street after the ashes on telly, and tennis after Wimbledon. (I’m coming over all Reform now). I remember doing that after Wimbledon because we’d watch it all fortnight and then want to play tennis.

Cricket moved to sky and apparently local cricket clubs are suffering because they’re not getting either numbers of kids coming through, or even the depth of kids - working class kids don’t play cricket nowadays because they’re not paying for it.
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Horse racing has suffered too. I use to love watching racing on Channel 4 or BBC 2. Now most of it is on Sky or Racing TV. The sport has suffered. Cheltenham and Grand National were big occasions, now you wouldn't know they were on. Sadly, the FA Cup has gone that way. The 3rd round, Semi-final and final were massive. I'm not interested in cricket but I can remember big tests matches been a big thing. I couldn't tell you a thing about it now.
 
Frijj said:
If I was in charge I would force the PL to be the sole provider of games, with a subscription package at a fair market rate, with one free PL game a week, fixtures moved for TV with at least eight weeks' notice and I'd lift the 3pm blackout too, but do it regionally, e.g. a Sunderland home fixture at 3pm could not be broadcast in the North East, Cumbria or Yorkshire, but could be everywhere else.
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Arise Sir/Lady Friij.
 
Scotty 1978 said:
Disgraceful that both fa semi finals aren’t shown on free to air tv, it’ll be interesting to see what TNT do next season when they’ve lost the champions league and Europa league, will people pay £30 per month for one premier league game per week
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It's not till 27/28 that the lose champions league
Stormo said:
It’s disgraceful really.

£22 sky sports
£30 tnt
£25 dazn
£11 amazon

£90 a month if you want to watch premier league, football league, national league and champions league/fa cup. Thats before any broadband you’re paying for.
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I think including amazon is not really fair , it shows one game a week in champions League, it's not really a football channel.

Dazn is just conference too

I actually think Sky is good value for what you get
 
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Brett said:
It's not till 27/28 that the lose champions league

I think including amazon is not really fair , it shows one game a week in champions League, it's not really a football channel.

Dazn is just conference too

I actually think Sky is good value for what you get
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Fair enough, I included them thinking they had a couple of midweek premier league games.

I’ve watched York a few times on DAZN this year so included then on that basis.

Sky is cracking value imo, quite affordable for what they offer. In August for example you could have a weekend where you have premier league, football league, F1 and England cricket all on. £22 is good.
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
Horse racing has suffered too. I use to love watching racing on Channel 4 or BBC 2. Now most of it is on Sky or Racing TV. The sport has suffered. Cheltenham and Grand National were big occasions, now you wouldn't know they were on. Sadly, the FA Cup has gone that way. The 3rd round, Semi-final and final were massive. I'm not interested in cricket but I can remember big tests matches been a big thing. I couldn't tell you a thing about it now.
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Cheltenham and the grand national are both still on free to air tv though
 
Stormo said:
Fair enough, I included them thinking they had a couple of midweek premier league games.

I’ve watched York a few times on DAZN this year so included then on that basis.

Sky is cracking value imo, quite affordable for what they offer. In August for example you could have a weekend where you have premier league, football league, F1 and England cricket all on. £22 is good.
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I think TNT is awful value and amazed they still exist on that price range

1 premier league a week, fa cup games , and Europe

I watch a lot of Championship games till and sky cover that well.

I do wish we had more sport on free tv but it's never going to be possible, especially the premier League.

The FA cup had always been on paid TV since the 90s but the FA have really messed up with how uneven the split is with the current contract
 
Scotty 1978 said:
Disgraceful that both fa semi finals aren’t shown on free to air tv, it’ll be interesting to see what TNT do next season when they’ve lost the champions league and Europa league, will people pay £30 per month for one premier league game per week
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Who’s got the rights next year?
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
Horse racing has suffered too. I use to love watching racing on Channel 4 or BBC 2. Now most of it is on Sky or Racing TV. The sport has suffered. Cheltenham and Grand National were big occasions, now you wouldn't know they were on. Sadly, the FA Cup has gone that way. The 3rd round, Semi-final and final were massive. I'm not interested in cricket but I can remember big tests matches been a big thing. I couldn't tell you a thing about it now.
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I might be wrong here but was Southwell/Wolverhampton on a Tuesday night ever shown on Channel 4 back in the day?

ITV probably show more racing now thanks to the Sunday Series, Racing League, more races at Cheltenham on free to air. Every Saturday we get 7 races on live tv to feed the ITV7. Racing has much bigger issues than the drop in free to air racing, tickets costing north of £50 for any half big day for what is really 30 minutes of racing, drinks costing £8 a pint and a disgusting burger costing £10 all whilst you are basically locked in for 6/7 hours. Then add in the fact they have sold their soul to show terrible racing throughout the winter to fund the bookies which in turn means we have horses racing who are rated in the 40's that shouldnt ever be born nevermind racing.
 
Frijj said:
If I was in charge I would force the PL to be the sole provider of games, with a subscription package at a fair market rate, with one free PL game a week, fixtures moved for TV with at least eight weeks' notice and I'd lift the 3pm blackout too, but do it regionally, e.g. a Sunderland home fixture at 3pm could not be broadcast in the North East, Cumbria or Yorkshire, but could be everywhere else.
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Aye, cos a regional blackout will work just as well as the supposed national one…
 
Could argue that why should armchair fans get it for free, when "proper" fans shell out a fair wedge of cash to go to a live game
 
Frijj said:
If I was in charge I would force the PL to be the sole provider of games, with a subscription package at a fair market rate, with one free PL game a week, fixtures moved for TV with at least eight weeks' notice and I'd lift the 3pm blackout too, but do it regionally, e.g. a Sunderland home fixture at 3pm could not be broadcast in the North East, Cumbria or Yorkshire, but could be everywhere else.
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It would need to raise 2.23 billion a season to make it equivalent to what the premier league get now

So 186 million a month
 
Brett said:
I think TNT is awful value and amazed they still exist on that price range

1 premier league a week, fa cup games , and Europe

I watch a lot of Championship games till and sky cover that well.

I do wish we had more sport on free tv but it's never going to be possible, especially the premier League.

The FA cup had always been on paid TV since the 90s but the FA have really messed up with how uneven the split is with the current contract
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I didn’t mind the fa cup being on tnt/bt but the uneven split is terrible. Both semis should be free.
 
Stormo said:
I didn’t mind the fa cup being on tnt/bt but the uneven split is terrible. Both semis should be free.
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The FA have definitely have messed up , I think for a few years we got used to ITV and BBC sharing it

I can't remember the situation before that deal as sure it was BBC and BT sports , but how was it split?
 
Even if it was on terrestrial tv, there's competition with everything for viewing. Could watch an FA Cup semi final match as a neutral. Or watch damn near any film or tv show on demand. Or fire up YouTube.

Can you guarantee the game will be as entertaining as a re-watch of Airplane?
 
maghater said:
Could argue that why should armchair fans get it for free, when "proper" fans shell out a fair wedge of cash to go to a live game
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It’s not the same market or experience though. If you go to the match, are our two home games the only football you watch in a month?

No one is really asking for it for free, I think most sensible people understand there’s a balance to be struck. As others have said Sky Sports is decent value at £20odd a month but that doesn’t even give you every game and you’re having to pay again for champions league and FA cup.

The way it is at the minute needs re-thinking it’s so very 1990s. We should have the option to see any game on TV, you should be able to have interactive coverage selecting different camera angles and stuff, be able to click something to bring the live table up, turn off the commentary etc. these things are not beyond the will of man, we only just last week put a man on the moon.

At the minute it’s excluding people, and by people we mean poor people. Sport itself will suffer eventually. You never see kids out kicking the ball in rougher areas these days, if they’re outdoors at all they’re either overweight or entertaining themselves with bikes/setting fires/vaping. You wander around nicer areas and the posh kids have all got PSG/Barca/Real Mardrid full kits on and kicking a ball about.
 
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