Getting the best out of Brobbey.

[Lord Alfred]

There isn't a simple solution and we're going to need a bit of a reshuffle in the summer to improve the attack.

It's very obvious we need someone either alongside Brobbey or who will make runs from deeper to support. Diarra was signed as that player and has shown promise but far too few and far between. Le Fee is our most creative player but he's the supplier not a runner.

Probably the most logical solution would be to stick with 433 but sign a right winger who will cut inside and get up alongside. Traore kind of did that but AFCON/injuries coincided with Brobbey starting games so we never really saw them together. Ideally an upgrade on him though.

This is my line of thought also. A genuine winger on one side and what is essentially another striker who’s comfortable on the wing…think of that wonderful Liverpool quartet of Salah, Mane, Firmino and Coutinho. Potentially we have the Firmino and Coutinho elements in Brobbey and Le Fee , we just need the second striker/winger (Salah) and the goalscoring winger (Mane)

 

[Keith S30S]

He’s our second most top scorer and I think the best on minutes to goals.

He’s also the only threat we seem to have outside the penalty area…

I'm not saying he isn't a threat but his all around play hasn't been great. I would have squeezed him in for a few more minutes but I can understand why he doesn't start every week.

 

[Whitburnmakem]

Le fee and brobbey have a good understanding he needs to play where diarra is but tbh id rotate him with isador arm who looks really sharp

 

[Durham-Mackem41-Rem]

Would benefit from actual wingers putting crosses into the box we need pace to get closer to him was so isolated last 2 games.

 

[SAFC11]

We dont create enough opportunities for shooting or get enough people up in support when we play it long. Even on crosses hes the sole person in the box vs 3 defenders.
If he stat padded with penalties, people would be much happier with his returns too

 

[Quillips]

Forest beat us by putting 3 men in the final 3rd. We had absolutely no counter for an attacking setup like that. If we had Mayenda on the left, Wilson on the right and Brobbey in the middle we could be onto something. I’d like to see ELF play centrally also because almost all his gal involvements started from him being positioned in the middle in the last few games. If that means dropping Diarra then so be it

No. They beat us through set pieces and a rare keeper blunder . We just looked dead on our feet for the 5th.

I'm struggling to remember the last time Talbi played well? He's got a goal him in certainly. Cracking shot against the mags but his all around game hasn't been great most of the season.

Eh? Surely you can't have forgotten!!!! He played very well on his last start! Against the mags. Equalised.

4th of the season - which isn't at all bad considering he's not had that much game time!

 

[Keith S30S]

No. They beat us through set pieces and a rare keeper blunder . We just looked dead on our feet for the 5th.

Eh? Surely you can't have forgotten!!!! He played very well on his last start! Against the mags. Equalised.

4th of the season - which isn't at all bad considering he's not had that much game time!

He had a cracking shot on target and scored a tap in. His all round play was very average.

Le Fee has came back in and got a couple of assists and also set Diarra up for a chance you would expect to be scored 3 times out of 4.

 

[SAFC 2012]

I don’t think talbi will be here next season. Just don’t think he’s settled and le bris clearly doesn’t rate him very highly

I think there’ll be big changes In The forward department. Wouldnt be surprised to see 2/3 of the wingers leave and at least two of the strikers

If we want to kick on we need massive improvements up front

Would benefit from actual wingers putting crosses into the box we need pace to get closer to him was so isolated last 2 games.

Absolutely no point putting crosses in the box. He’s outnumbered about 4:1 every time we do because he’s the only person we commit forward.

We never ever have anybody attacking the back post and our midfield must think they only have to defend.

This is my line of thought also. A genuine winger on one side and what is essentially another striker who’s comfortable on the wing…think of that wonderful Liverpool quartet of Salah, Mane, Firmino and Coutinho. Potentially we have the Firmino and Coutinho elements in Brobbey and Le Fee , we just need the second striker/winger (Salah) and the goalscoring winger (Mane)

Le fee should never be played out wide tbf. He’s completely ineffective. He creates nothing and carries no goal threat

He’s ten times the player through the middle

 

[zidanny]

He’s not the answer in my opinion, yes he’s great at holding it up etc but he has 6 goals all season.

I just don’t see him as a goal threat at all. His good play is first class but his finishing is erratic at best. He needs a goal scorer to play off him.

 

[Lord Alfred]

I don’t think talbi will be here next season. Just don’t think he’s settled and le bris clearly doesn’t rate him very highly

I think there’ll be big changes In The forward department. Wouldnt be surprised to see 2/3 of the wingers leave and at least two of the strikers

If we want to kick on we need massive improvements up front

Absolutely no point putting crosses in the box. He’s outnumbered about 4:1 every time we do because he’s the only person we commit forward.

We never ever have anybody attacking the back post and our midfield must think they only have to defend.

Le fee should never be played out wide tbf. He’s completely ineffective. He creates nothing and carries no goal threat

He’s ten times the player through the middle

Fully agree, sometimes he’s been our best winger but without a doubt he’s an acm.

 

[andy78]

We simply need runners off him. Xhaka is taking the leadership thing too far IMO and only looks to pass when he gets into good positions, Sadiki and Le Fee don't really get into the box much, Riggy ends up in no mans land between the wing and the box, leaving only Diarra to help him out.

 

[Lord Alfred]

I just don’t see him as a goal threat at all. His good play is first class but his finishing is erratic at best. He needs a goal scorer to play off him.

Sure I read a graphic which suggested Brobbey had one of the best goal conversion rates in the PL, which suggests it’s not his finishing that’s at fault but the lack of chances created for him.

We simply need runners off him. Xhaka is taking the leadership thing too far IMO and only looks to pass when he gets into good positions, Sadiki and Le Fee don't really get into the box much, Riggy ends up in no mans land between the wing and the box, leaving only Diarra to help him out.

Exactly, we don’t move forward as a unit and most of the time Brobbey is fighting two defenders to try and maintain possession until someone does make themselves available. He’s pretty good at instant control and quick lay off while moving for a potential one-two. What must be frustrating the hell out of him is battling physically with two brutes for 5-10 seconds trying to keep possession while waiting for his teammates to offer themselves as an option.

 

[gatonegro]

I think Isidor has looked sharp last couple of games after being written off it seemed by everyone. Brobbey is still class at what he does but we are way too predictable I’d like to see us mix it up a bit sometime Wilson starts sometimes brobbey starts and eve sometimes they both play! I would have had Wilson on at h-t the other night and gone all out to try and get an early goal and see what happens. But agree starting every single game with brobbey on his tod up front is just way too predictable and think it only works when we expect to have comfortably less possession

 

[SAFC11]

Brobbey has one of the best convertion rates from shots, with 22% success. Issue is he doesnt get many shots away, whether by tactics or style of play. And he doesnt take penalties. Isidors is 13% by contrast. Ultimately more shots you have the more likely one will end up going in. Most our shots seem to be from the edge of the box too these days

If we are sticking with 4231 then the most important thing is signing wingers who actually connect up. Out of all the ones weve signed, talbi off the left is probably best but hes still so raw. Le fee has to play on the middle, and an alternative signed that can create and has a little goal threat too. But the wings are by far one of the biggest concerns

 

[Football Dinosaur]

Last season we went 442. I think this could work. Play mayenda just off brobbey when in possession or at goal kicks. If we lose it he goes yo the wing and the winger tucks in to make it a 5 in midfield.

 

[andy78]

Sure I read a graphic which suggested Brobbey had one of the best goal conversion rates in the PL, which suggests it’s not his finishing that’s at fault but the lack of chances created for him.


Exactly, we don’t move forward as a unit and most of the time Brobbey is fighting two defenders to try and maintain possession until someone does make themselves available. He’s pretty good at instant control and quick lay off while moving for a potential one-two. What must be frustrating the hell out of him is battling physically with two brutes for 5-10 seconds trying to keep possession while waiting for his teammates to offer themselves as an option.

It's the best reason to switch to two up top, even if it means going to a back 3. Got to get options around him as he's class at holding on to it and laying it off but it's mental how long he has to do it for before a teammate gets close.

 

[brains]

mayenda left and Wilson right of him let’s just have a go both have played on the wing in there career and centrally . We need to stop playing central midfielders on the wing.

Our full backs have been exposed the last 2 games because Le Fee and Rigg switching off from their defensive duties.

This would be even worse with Mayenda and Isidor on the wings imo.

 

[Nosworthycorner]

Le Fee needs to be playing centre midfield for starters instead of Diarra.

Sadiki can do the running diarra does. We are struggling as we don't have x2 settled out and out wingers. That's not down to the club unfortunately as we couldn't have foreseen the injuries we have had.

I would not be sacrificing Le Fee out wide irrespective of the injuries however. It feels like they are now doing what they did with Bellingham with Diarra. Building his game time up with the intention to sell for a big fee.

 

[rob79safc]

Maybe we could try 2 forwards up top in brobbey and Wilson with le fee in behind them as the 10,3 in midfield is the usual 3 of sadiki,diarra and xhaka and defence should pick itself,we ain’t getting much from our wingers so why not trying to play without them and let the 2 fullbacks bomb on,got nowt to lose the last 4 games really

 

[gards2]

He's done well given the few genuine chances he gets. We've massivelly fallen of the cliff defensively recently. We need to go back to what we were doing the first 10/50 games at the start of the season.