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SOL expansion


Sgt Pepper said:
Nobody is saying let’s never do it. Just some of us are saying wait to see if we continually sell it out because upto now this is only season 3 of 20 odd since the last extension. Read the latest posts about the construction costs these days. This isn’t something that can be knocked up overnight for peanuts. The people demanding an extension would likely be the first to piss and moan if we did and and our budgets on transfers got cut back as we had to cut our cloth accordingly. What’s wrong with finding our feet, assessing the demand and then deciding? Knee jerk decisions generally aren’t very well thought out or end well.

Fuck that though mate, let’s just do it because suddenly demand exceeds supply for the first time in quarter of a century!
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Aston villa sell outs - six times in 26 seasons.
 
Mr B said:
Good job Bob ignored the doubters when he extended the North Stand for £7m. We wasted more than that around that time on the likes of Flo. Probably could have extended the whole stadium at the time for an extra £17-18m.
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Then we'd be left with a whole stadium that wouldn't be fit for modern purposes
 
Football in general is a lot more popular than the last time we were in the Premier League - I don’t know how many times this needs to be pointed out. It’s a completely different beast.

We clearly don’t plan to regress on the pitch and we have a waiting list. We also need to be best placed for non-football events. Quinn and Monty’s is sold out and the boxes have a waiting list too.

Get it built.
 
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KST said:
Football in general is a lot more popular than the last time we were in the Premier League - I don’t know how many times this needs to be pointed out. It’s a completely different beast.

We clearly don’t plan to regress on the pitch and we have a waiting list. We also need to be best placed for non-football events. Quinn and Monty’s is sold out and the boxes have a waiting list too.

Get it built.
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You might as well bang your head against a brick wall mate.
 
KST said:
Football in general is a lot more popular than the last time we were in the Premier League - I don’t know how many times this needs to be pointed out. It’s a completely different beast.

We clearly don’t plan to regress on the pitch and we have a waiting list. We also need to be best placed for non-football events. Quinn and Monty’s is sold out and the boxes have a waiting list too.

Get it built.
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I read a waiting list of 35 for boxes as well
 
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robbied2 said:
John hall had them in huge debt tho
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And what harm did that do them? Regular European football, big signings and permanent top flight status. Left the club in a position far stronger than they were when he took it over.

They’ve had a couple of relegations that they immediately and strongly bounced back from under a subsequent owner and the foundations that Hall built made them attractive to PIF who have subsequently delivered European football and silverware.

Investing into infrastructure, even if it does bring debt, is no bad thing. It’s the best debt to have. Bad debt is when you’re borrowing with interest to keep the lights.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
And what harm did that do them? Regular European football, big signings and permanent top flight status. Left the club in a position far stronger than they were when he took it over.

They’ve had a couple of relegations that they immediately and strongly bounced back from under a subsequent owner and the foundations that Hall built made them attractive to PIF who have subsequently delivered European football and silverware.

Investing into infrastructure, even if it does bring debt, is no bad thing. It’s the best debt to have. Bad debt is when you’re borrowing with interest to keep the lights.
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Tell that to Spurs fans.

EDIT: I'm not against it for the record just pointing that out
 
KST said:
Football in general is a lot more popular than the last time we were in the Premier League - I don’t know how many times this needs to be pointed out. It’s a completely different beast.

We clearly don’t plan to regress on the pitch and we have a waiting list. We also need to be best placed for non-football events. Quinn and Monty’s is sold out and the boxes have a waiting list too.

Get it built.
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Largely though this is down to touristy fans and the increase in that sort of (imo) sickening market. I’m not convinced, and am actually quite proud of, the fact we don’t seem to have that market yet. I would rather 40,000-45,000 proper Sunderland supporters in the ground than 60,000 diluted by tourists. Look what has happened to Spurs compared to the old WHL. Absolutely tragic. I don’t know how many times this needs pointed out either, and I’m aware some will not understand that point of view and see it as holding the club back.

I find it hugely depressing the way English football is going tbh and the drive to ‘increase the revenue!’ at the expense of working class support because this is what is happening - prices all over are shooting up and anybody thinking an extension would mean prices can remain the same or reduce is deluded, they’d simply want to exploit more money out of it somewhere. I’m not even old but the football I grew up with is going in a direction I’m really not keen on.
 
AndrewP said:
It was about £7m then. Obviously things have gone up a lot, but by what multiple?
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You would hope no more than 30. But that will be going on the original design, when I would hope they have a plan to do a little more and improve the facilities and create a little more space for hospitalility, maybe entrances and exits to generally improve the matchday experience. But at a max I wouldn’t expect it to be more than 50-60 million.
 
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