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Championship tell VAR to do one.

The Beautiful Game said:
I don’t have the stats to back this up, but I’d wager it’s a big reason why the likes of man United, Chelsea, spurs etc have struggled recently.

Obviously the premier league money has made the gap smaller but those clubs definitely got more of their fair share of refereeing decisions pre var.

I’m not blaming corruption or anything, but the pressure to give those clubs decisions or rather the pressure to not rule against them 100% used to be a factor.
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Good point to be fair.
 

viccarlton said:
Well done Championship clubs 👏👏👏
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Let’s not forget , but for Var . We would never have seen Xhaka , Sadiki, Mukiele, Theinaldo,Brobbey,Roefs and others. We wouldnt have the delight of beating the mags home and away, or winning at the bridge or the city ground. There’s too much more to list and we’d have had none of it but for VAR.
Ask the Boro fans whether they want var after that last gasp pen at Ipswich that could cost them promotion.
 
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Burns said:
If the linesman could see that he was in a potentially offside postition and in the keepers line of sight then he a f**king genius official
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I didn’t say line of sight. The referee would work out the line of sight, the assistant would alert to a player being in an offside position
The Beautiful Game said:
I don’t have the stats to back this up, but I’d wager it’s a big reason why the likes of man United, Chelsea, spurs etc have struggled recently.

Obviously the premier league money has made the gap smaller but those clubs definitely got more of their fair share of refereeing decisions pre var.

I’m not blaming corruption or anything, but the pressure to give those clubs decisions or rather the pressure to not rule against them 100% used to be a factor.
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Interesting post. I suppose the “var decision table” would be the place to start here
 
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We wouldn't be in this league without VAR in the play off final.

How's that different to Ipswich's soft pen against Boro on Saturday which takes the score to 2-2? And potentially affects who is promoted. VAR doesn't give that decision on review.

The championship should have VAR and will at some point. The stakes are too high not to.
 
I expect that there will be zero whinging about goals that should have been chalked off or should have stood, in the Championship next season then.
Each club and it’s supporters will simply accept the Ref’s decision as final and just move on…..🤣
 
Keith S30S said:
This.

Similar systems work well in other sports but the Premier League are hopeless.

Clear and obvious, 2 minutes max for non factual decisions like offsides. No refs going to screens, total waste of time, the bloke in the box decides.

That would be a start.
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What do you define for 'clear and obvious'?

Do you accept that people may have different opinions on what is 'clear and obvious'?
 
Teejay said:
The decisions VAR makes are fine. It’s the fact that it removes spontaneity from goal celebrations that is my issue with it. Hate it with a passion.

Eventually all decisions will be made by AI bots anyway.
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This is a myth surely and is more down to a minority of individuals?

For all the years it's been in now I'm sure when goals are scored, more so in recent time, that fans still celebrate rather than stand and wait in case VAR disallows it? We've only had 1 goal disallowed this season but fans still celebrated when we scored.

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What's frustrating is that Alderete was offside and didn't need to be as he was well back onside when he headed it. I wonder how the outcomes of offsides would be affected if when a player who is offside initially touches the ball is actually deemed back onside?
 
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tunstallhill said:
Or just sack it off and have one ref, the one on the field, referee the game as he sees it.

Has worked as close to fine as can be for 100s of years.

It's a simple game
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Exactly.

People (fans, players, managers, pundits) can just grow up and deal with some mistakes by referees.

Sadly won't happen.
 
One if the most ridiculous statements when arguing against var is “ it levels itself out over the season “ . What a pile of shit. When a ref fucks up and costs a team 1 or 3 pts , to then say , “ it’s ok , next week the fuck up might be in our favour and the other team get screwed” That bollox is the biggest argument for var imo.
 
I don't have a problem with what VAR was brought in to do (i.e. get more decisions right). I totally get it.

But I do have a problem with what it's taken out of the game, the passion, the raw emotion etc. That's a huge part of what got us all hooked on football.

Every time we score a goal, unless it's from range (like talbi against burnley), my immediate thought is to quickly think back to see if there's a reason it might be ruled out. Take the 2 goals in the derby. Of course i celebrated, but with talbi's goal i was expecting a VAR check on Brobbey's potential handball. It does make you think a little. I personally would prefer VAR wasn't there for that reason. Granted you will get some poor decisions at times, but that's football. Players give the ball away, keepers thrown one in every now and again, referees get things wrong. We're all human beings

I am a big fan of goal line technology, and we can get offsides automated that would be fine. But i don't want it getting involved in fouls, red cards (unless the referee hasnt seen an incident to make his own call. i.e. off the ball violent conduct), corner kicks etc. No need to re referee the game.

Just use the technology for the fact based decisions
 
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that referees have become significantly worse at refereeing since the introduction of VAR.

VAR in itself is a good idea. The officials who monitor it are pretty useless. It should only take seconds to come up with a decision, not minutes.
 
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