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SAFC - Fan Ban & Ticket Cancellations


He's definitely done a lot of good things. Good things which have big visibility. Things which have the potential to expand revenue channels.

He hasn't given a shit about the smaller things which affect the everyday match going fan and have minimal impact on revenue though. They've arguably got worse under his watch when surely it's all within his remit.

Sadly there won't be. We have too many fans who prefer to question their own rather than back them and who think behaviour like this is needed to be a Premier League club. There's a load of them on this thread.
Absolutely spot-on mate. It’s a sad situation for me but we appear to have attracted/converted a decent amount of I’m alright, selfish folk - just look at this thread, as you say.
It’s not what I always regarded Sunderland fans as. It may be off topic but just popped in my head - under Denis Smith we went to Villa away and the West Midlands plod were as obnoxious as usual - they kettled us all in with only a couple of away turnstile open (bearing in mind this was months after Hillsborough). I was a 14 year old and getting a bit crushed - a load of blokes were lifting young uns above their heads and letting them get in ahead of them.
After the game, a lad and his little ‘un (I think around 5ish) were walking out, the fatha walked on the road, as opposed to the path and was immediately dragged to the other side of the road, surrounded by German Shepherds whilst his little bairn as crying his eyes out. Every Sunderland fan in the vicinity to man, looked after the little un and refused to move until his dad was released.
Not sure that would happy these days.

As I say, not particularly relevant to the thread but I’m not sure we have the sense of community we used to have. I remember Swindon away, last game of the season once when a lad on out bus got a Mascot’s ticket and we were in three sides of the ground!
 
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What happens if the club come out and say this is the policy and this is why they're doing it. Not going to change our mind and other football clubs are also doing similar. Which is potentially the truth to all of this.

What then? Because its possible they do that and the majority of people wouldn't really care because it doesn't affect them.
RAWA totally ignored fans informing them of the issue!

This needed nipping in the bud BEFORE the club sold all the remaining tickets. The clock was ticking. RAWA didn't act quickly enough.

Those to me are the facts. They failed the fans. Now non of this may have made any difference at all but they didn't give it a fair crack of the whip.

The club are completely out of order. This doesn't effect me but to suggest I and others won't be bothered is ridiculous in my eyes. We're all supporting the same club together and I want fairness for all our fans.
 
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What do you think of them blanking fans?

What do you think of them reposting a club statement slagging off our fans without comment?

Sorry but they seem to have trusted the club, hung back on saying anything and been played like a cheap fiddle.

Embarrassing as fuck.

Buster blood vessel here has lost all sense of perspective.
RAWA totally ignored fans informing them of the issue!

This needed nipping in the bud BEFORE the club sold all the remaining tickets. The clock was ticking. RAWA didn't act quickly enough.

Those to me are the facts. They failed the fans. Now non of this may have made any difference at all but they didn't give it a fair crack of the whip.

The club are completely out of order. This doesn't effect me but to suggest I and others won't be bothered is ridiculous in my eyes. We're all supporting the same club together and I want fairness for all our fans.

They are your opinions.
 
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RAWA totally ignored fans informing them of the issue!

This needed nipping in the bud BEFORE the club sold all the remaining tickets. The clock was ticking. RAWA didn't act quickly enough.

Those to me are the facts. They failed the fans. Now non of this may have made any difference at all but they didn't give it a fair crack of the whip.

The club are completely out of order. This doesn't effect me but to suggest I and others won't be bothered is ridiculous in my eyes. We're all supporting the same club together and I want fairness for all our fans.
I didn't say you won"t be bothered but a hell of a lot of people won't be. The club will be banking on it blowing over eventually.
 
It does seem the club intend ignoring everything like they essentially did about the BCB last season. They know it will blow over whilst things are good on the pitch. It’s a shameful way to run the club ignoring supporters who were here long before and will be here long after the staff and owners are gone.
It certainly hasn’t been forgotten about the BCB, absolute f***ing joke.
 
People are mentioning the missed opportunity the club had to nip things in the bud in an open & consulted way.

SAFC2012 helped the club with ticketing for years, then discussed things further, culminating in an offer to help further including trialing systems. The club acknowledged this & added they thought it a good idea. Nothing happened.

In both his statements shared on here ( that have been seen at senior levels within the club), he finished them by stating …. Let’s get round a table & work a way forward. I believe no contact has been made.

It is my own opinion that individuals in the club have painted themselves into a corner & presently don’t have the barls or permission to action something.

Also as stated, they are milking the present position ( ferk the PL 😡), but, when we become less marketable or even drop, I for one will not forget the present situation. It may be a drop in the ocean but when we were shoite I bought more stuff ( replica’s etc), paid membership to alsorts & even made cash donations to help our struggling club. Would I repeat??????
 
People are mentioning the missed opportunity the club had to nip things in the bud in an open & consulted way.

SAFC2012 helped the club with ticketing for years, then discussed things further, culminating in an offer to help further including trialing systems. The club acknowledged this & added they thought it a good idea. Nothing happened.

In both his statements shared on here ( that have been seen at senior levels within the club), he finished them by stating …. Let’s get round a table & work a way forward. I believe no contact has been made.

It is my own opinion that individuals in the club have painted themselves into a corner & presently don’t have the barls or permission to action something.

Also as stated, they are milking the present position ( ferk the PL 😡), but, when we become less marketable or even drop, I for one will not forget the present situation. It may be a drop in the ocean but when we were shoite I bought more stuff ( replica’s etc), paid membership to alsorts & even made cash donations to help our struggling club. Would I repeat??????
I’ve come to the conclusion that going forward I’ll treat the club the same way a customer treats a retailer. I’ll attend when things are good and it suits me but if the product drops then so will my loyalty and I’ll pick n choose games. Spent a fortune in corporate during the back to backs relegations and league 1 days . Luckily moved two seasons ago to GA as youngest wanted to be in standing area.
Losing over 20odd yrs of season ticket history , having to pay more for a seat than the lads near us because corporate doesn’t count …na sorry.
Can’t imagine how those lads must be feeling leaving corporate now and having no seat next year
 
I’ve come to the conclusion that going forward I’ll treat the club the same way a customer treats a retailer. I’ll attend when things are good and it suits me but if the product drops then so will my loyalty and I’ll pick n choose games. Spent a fortune in corporate during the back to backs relegations and league 1 days . Luckily moved two seasons ago to GA as youngest wanted to be in standing area.
Losing over 20odd yrs of season ticket history , having to pay more for a seat than the lads near us because corporate doesn’t count …na sorry.
Can’t imagine how those lads must be feeling leaving corporate now and having no seat next year
I’m going to upgrade my step-faitha’s season ticket to an adult from over 65 and we’ll share one. Bollocks to buying individual tickets.
 
I’ve come to the conclusion that going forward I’ll treat the club the same way a customer treats a retailer. I’ll attend when things are good and it suits me but if the product drops then so will my loyalty and I’ll pick n choose games. Spent a fortune in corporate during the back to backs relegations and league 1 days . Luckily moved two seasons ago to GA as youngest wanted to be in standing area.
Losing over 20odd yrs of season ticket history , having to pay more for a seat than the lads near us because corporate doesn’t count …na sorry.
Can’t imagine how those lads must be feeling leaving corporate now and having no seat next year
Certainly wouldnt be upgrading to Corporate now, if thats the way they treat your loyalty.
Its obvious now Corporate is a seperaate entity to normal Season Card Holders.
Feel sorry for anyone who is wanting to drop from Corporate to a normal seat. Especially if they have been loyal during the 8 seasons outside the top flight.
 
I’m going to upgrade my step-faitha’s season ticket to an adult from over 65 and we’ll share one. Bollocks to buying individual tickets.
That is something I tried a couple of years ago. I offered to pay extra cos my Mrs used it sometimes. They said no! So I cancelled it altogether and not in times like now when they are flush! Probably required a little bit of thought and effort so they fucked it clean off
 
There's loads we know of going today who hardly have any Bcps and using other supporters details.
I know of someone who only bought their season ticket again this season after years of not going. No loyalty points but I saw them on Sunday.

They have openly said to me on a number of occasions that they will “definitely get a ticket through the branch” I’ve also seen them at a few other away games this season too.

The branch in question will have no fear of any repercussions I bet.
 
Another whopper muddying the waters.

Am I having a pop at RAWA? Certainly, they've been absolutely rubbish.

Am I having a pop at Becs, no. She is a (lowly) rep with (seemingly very) little influence in the decision making process.

If I was the RAWA rep I would have resigned my position because I wouldn't want to be associated with utter arseholes supposedly representing our fans.

I've resigned from being a mod for far, far less...
Have a word ref man come on. No wonder Becs doesn’t post here any more
 
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