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Jared Gillet

rey mysterio said:
The same VAR should be used for every round of fixtures. If there are two at the same time, then they’ll just have to wait and stop the clock or something.

The inconsistency is absolutely pathetic at this level and making a mockery of the sport
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Sadiki taps the ball away and gets booked. Rice takes a shot towards the corner flag 5 seconds after the whistle goes and no booking

It’s a joke like
 

redandwhiterob said:
Thats not answering question. If you think the overall standing of officiating is low you should be able to point to a time in your opinion when it was higher. Do you think its just seems lower down the amount of scrutiny they are under now compared to years gone by?
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Obviously, you can't give an instant when it suddenly changed. Like any malaise, it's gradual.That's obvious. I cannot take you seriously.
 
Fleagle said:
That doesn’t make any sense. The whole point of a 50/50 decision is that it’s right on the margin. So you would expect half of them to be given and half not given. That’s why they’re called 50/50. You can’t be “consistent” if by consistent you mean giving the same decision every time. The only way you could do that on a 50/50 decision is to give half a free kick for every one of them. Whatever half a free kick might look like.
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You either allow shoulder charges to be part of the game and let play on, or you stop the game and class them as fouls. That's what I mean by consistency. Two players running side by side leaning into each other trying to out muscle thier opponent. You can't class it as a foul one minute then two minutes later allow it to happen without sanction. That's my point
 
tunstallhill said:
You either allow shoulder charges to be part of the game and let play on, or you stop the game and class them as fouls. That's what I mean by consistency. Two players running side by side leaning into each other trying to out muscle thier opponent. You can't class it as a foul one minute then two minutes later allow it to happen without sanction. That's my point
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Shoulder to shoulder has always been allowed . Shoulder to middle of opponents back is a foul regardless of where it occurs on the field.
The Aussie twat correctly gave it as a foul a few minutes later ,when in general play.
 
nz joe said:
Shoulder to shoulder has always been allowed . Shoulder to middle of opponents back is a foul regardless of where it occurs on the field.
The Aussie twat correctly gave it as a foul a few minutes later ,when in general play.
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There was two in the second half by Traore that from where I was stood looked Perfectly legal, and he blew up.

But one in the first half that I said to the lad next to me was 100% a foul by our player than he let go. Was bizarre
 
Voice of fair play said:
The point been put to you is the way refs are judged unfairly means the level will always perceived as low.

Has been as long as I remember can’t remember a time when it was perceived as anything else.

And can’t envisage a time when it will be perceived as again else.

Because once again good games are ignored, mistakes remembered for years.

A ref could make 3 high profile mistakes in 3 games in a season have 35 good games and be perceived as a bad ref because that is how people assess them.

Once you have that ridiculous culture of assessing anything that way, you will never perceive anything as a high standard which is exactly where we at with looking at refs.
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You are making an irrational generalisation. As always in any profession,it should be looking how to improve standards. As I've mentioned several times, as a body,they should be looking at more strictly applying the rules. Harping on about fans ' criticism, justified or not, will achieve nothing positive and certainly won't bring about higher standards.
 
Parkside said:
You are making an irrational generalisation. As always in any profession,it should be looking how to improve standards. As I've mentioned several times, as a body,they should be looking at more strictly applying the rules. Harping on about fans ' criticism, justified or not, will achieve nothing positive and certainly won't bring about higher standards.
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Neither will constant abuse and unfair criticism, as inevitably like you pointing out who will want take up a profession when you judged soo unfairly.

The current culture just means less will take it up?

I mean who wants to start at kids or Sunday morning football for peanuts when all they will get is a repeat of what you hear fans do at the professional level
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Neither will constant abuse and unfair criticism, as inevitably like you pointing out who will want take up a profession when you judged soo unfairly.

The current culture just means less will take it up?

I mean who wants to start at kids or Sunday morning football for peanuts when all they will get is a repeat of what you hear fans do at the professional level
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Behaviour of some parents is embarrassing in the extreme but,to use your frequent expression, that's a separate issue and irrelevant to improving the standard at the elete level.You won't achieve that until you accept that there's an issue and look to how to address it.
 
Voice of fair play said:
Neither will constant abuse and unfair criticism, as inevitably like you pointing out who will want take up a profession when you judged soo unfairly.

The current culture just means less will take it up?

I mean who wants to start at kids or Sunday morning football for peanuts when all they will get is a repeat of what you hear fans do at the professional level
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Don't try and defend this incompetent idiot and his VAR mates. That's at best ,at worst corrupt.
 
Parkside said:
Obviously, you can't give an instant when it suddenly changed. Like any malaise, it's gradual.That's obvious. I cannot take you seriously.
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Do you not think its perceived as a lower standard because the scrutiny is much more intense compared to years gone by? Do you think if you dropped refs in from a different era into the modern game they'd do the job better?
tunstallhill said:
You either allow shoulder charges to be part of the game and let play on, or you stop the game and class them as fouls. That's what I mean by consistency. Two players running side by side leaning into each other trying to out muscle thier opponent. You can't class it as a foul one minute then two minutes later allow it to happen without sanction. That's my point
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No two things are identical. Theres loads of nuances to every decision and it may be getting viewed from a different angle from the previous incident. Its ridiculous when people try to paint incidents as somehow identical then scream about consistency
 
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Parkside said:
Behaviour of some parents is embarrassing in the extreme but,to use your frequent expression, that's a separate issue and irrelevant to improving the standard at the elete level.You won't achieve that until you accept that there's an issue and look to how to address it.
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Like I say the standard will never improve in most people’s eyes because at the risk of repeating myself good games forgotten, mistakes remembered for years,

Therefore as mistakes inevitable in real time decisions, and will always happen and always have, if judged unfairly, standard will always be perceived as low like it always has been
 
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