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Geertruida

It depends on the contract. If it was just an optional agreed price, this is probably true. If it was an agreed price that became compulsary for any reason, terms would almost certainly have been agreed with the player.
It was reported as loan fee with an option to buy at the end at an agreed price of €23m
 

I think you may have misinterpreted. If Sunderland were to go in for a future player at Leipzig or Liverpool it's a whole lot better to have a good rapport at the negotiation table than not.
Chelsea are talking to a few clubs, including Sunderland about a loan for that George at the moment. Why haven't these talks been shunned and the player just sent to Sunderland first dibs?

It's nonsense man.
 
Well I hope we play hardball with Liverpool. After they loaned us a crock last year and seeing we are playing them soon I wouldn’t be making it easy for them. Big chunk of money or off you fuck baldy.
 
There's a couple of posters posting non stop on this thread thinking it's the end of our time in the premier league. Absolutely mental. The club WILL have a replacement lined up, and If not the move to Liverpool just won't happen. It's really straightforward
 
Whats the alternative now Geetruida isnt/won't be available? I genuinely can't think of one.
I’d be tempted to go

Roefs
Mukiele Ballard Alderete Reinildo
Hume Diarra Sadiki Talbi
ELF
Brobbey
Basically what we played against Palace but with Diarra instead of Xhaka. Also the shape we should have played last weekend if Geerty had been picked. Not at all ideal but a bed Reg has made for himself to an extent.
 
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Be disappointing to lose him. Had really hoped we'd turn it into a permanent signing as looks a great player. Thought it was strange he wasnt involved on Saturday but perhaps the club had an understanding this was going to happen.

Either way our squad is paper thin, hes extremely versatile, and none of the areas where we're really stretched in have been addressed in January. Losing him without a like for like replacement (would be extremely hard to do) and without addressing xhaka back up and winger situation would leave us noticeably weaker.
 
What's the alternative?
The Suicide Squad (sequel).
Sadiki not going to work in the middle
Diarra is probably not going to be able to last if he does out on his feet by the end
Adingra is well Adingra
Mundle has done OK but still has a lot of learning to do
Talbi the same but is more forward and a better player atm.

Its a bit of a reality check really people have got carried away by our league position imho. Not bad for a newly promoted team but shows how much investment is still needed.
 
Whats the alternative now Geetruida isnt/won't be available? I genuinely can't think of one.
There isn't unfortunately. Really hope we can bring somebody in in the next 30 hours or so that can play the holding role, at least going forward until Xhaka is available again.
 
I’d be tempted to go

Roefs
Mukiele Ballard Alderete Reinildo
Hume Diarra Sadiki Talbi
ELF
Brobbey
Basically what we played against Palace but either Diarra instead of Xhaka. Also the shape we should have played last weekend if Geerty had been picked. Not at all ideal but a bed Reg has made for himself to an extent.
ELF? Brain fog.
 
I'd imagine given we've agreed a year long loan we'll have to be involved in any talks
If we’ve paid a loan fee for the year he is effectively our player for a year, I’d like to think we’d be compensated some how. If they pay say £20m for him on 4 year deal then he’s worth £5m per season. We should be due some of that really.
 
Chelsea are talking to a few clubs, including Sunderland about a loan for that George at the moment. Why haven't these talks been shunned and the player just sent to Sunderland first dibs?

It's nonsense man.
It's nonsense you think doing someone a favour automatically neglects all other clubs. One example may be Sunderland are offering a squad role position for George whereas an inferior club may be offering regular starter...

To add, having a good rapport gives you more pull. Having a bad rapport then Sunderland wouldn't even be in with a chance. That's the difference.
 
Roefs and Mukiele have cost us goals this season. Some absolute howlers aswell. Are they weak links for 'where we want to be'?
When they haven’t cost us goals they have been unbelievable Hume has just been ok. It’s all about standards mine are higher than yours but that’s ok.
 
Isn’t it more likely that’s the reason he wasn’t being played rather than the reason that he would want to leave? I don’t know. Could his parent club insist he not be risked?
Don’t think a club could loan a player for a fee then say he can’t play 🤔
 
There's a couple of posters posting non stop on this thread thinking it's the end of our time in the premier league. Absolutely mental. The club WILL have a replacement lined up, and If not the move to Liverpool just won't happen. It's really straightforward
I hope you're right cos if the move doesn't happen with a stuck with an unhappy player for the rest of the season.
 
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