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Dan Neil

magic snood said:
How did you arrive at that assumption? Given that there's plenty of evidence of many football clubs lowballing and taking academy products for granted due to their personal connection to the club, I fail to see how the likeliest assumption is that he was caught up in his own hype.

We had the 7th lowest wage bill in the championship according to the most recent accounts, I doubt we managed that without being pretty thrifty with contract offers and renewals.
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We made him captain, and Speakman said contract talks were ongoing. He's homegrown at a club that wants to nuture that, with those two things in mind, I don't think it's a stretch to suggest we will have made him our top earner.

But at the time, there was speculation that Premier League teams wanted him, and we had just been a shit show, again, not a stretch to think he may have wanted to see where the land lies.
 

Lonz said:
I think it's simply that he's not good enough.
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He was never going to be good enough, but I think he could have had a contract sorted long ago with the club as a squad player. I don't think him or his agent have liked the terms and he's probably just been doing the bare minimum in training. He could/should have been used more over the last few weeks while we've been so thin.

It's best for both parties that he finds a club now, but he's chance to get better offers waiting until the summer.
 
Mboma said:
He was never going to be good enough, but I think he could have had a contract sorted long ago with the club as a squad player. I don't think him or his agent have liked the terms and he's probably just been doing the bare minimum in training. He could/should have been used more over the last few weeks while we've been so thin.

It's best for both parties that he finds a club now, but he's chance to get better offers waiting until the summer.
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Reggie must be a liar, he's said Neil's behaviour has been perfect
 
The Hesk said:
Janelt is playing weekly for Brentford and has 6 months left on his contract.
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they're different scenarios. janelt is a proven player - and maybe brentford are keen for him to renew. neil would be a bit of a project, like hume and cirkin and ballard and we've have to trust he'd step up and is worth the risk

if he's a borderline player not signing a deal, then it makes sense to not play him as much as janelt at brentford
 
Lonz said:
I'll be very surprised if Reinildo isn't straight back in at the earliest opportunity.

There have been opportunities for Neil to play more, but we've chosen to do something completely different instead bringing a like-for-like on. He's clearly not in RLB's plans this year at all.
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I thought there might be minutes for him over Christmas with the AFCON lads away, but game by game I can see why there hasn't been.
 
People going on likes he's 35. He's just turned 24. Could easily improve to be good enough for this level. Plus, we'll never know if he never plays.
 
It's simple. Dan Neil plays in the role that Granit Xhaka plays, and he plays every minute available. Even when Dan came on last night, both he and Xhaka assumed the same role it seemed, at least positionally.
 
Coeus said:
I disagree with your thought process and conclusion
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And me with yours.

Even the reasoning with Cirkin, suggesting his contract talks must have gone better - how?
chriswallace85 said:
I think Mayenda gets the nod because of the shift he put in against City. It would have been harsh to drop him.
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That's fair enough, but the solutions were finding during games then needs shaking up again the next one at the moment.

I'm not for a minute suggesting we should be playing Neil often. But starting or coming on in a 3 man central midfield recently when clearly some are fatigued its a bit silly why it hasn't been utilised for me.

As you say - its been hard and we're scrapping every minute for every point.
chriswallace85 said:
Leeds were forced to revert to 433 and that's when we struggled to cope. As I keep saying, there was good argument for Neil in that game.
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When Rodon went off they improved with Tanaka. We were already struggling with the positions Aaronson was taking up in midfield though. Maybe you think we're st home, we won't start that way - but Leeds are in form, physical and crowd that area. We were pretty much second to everything dropping in the midfield area, number would have helped stem that earlier.
 
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Rigg nor Neil are right wingers . Regis plays percentages and he will have felt that 1-0 down at 55 mins was decent return on the energy he had been able to retain in Mayenda . He basically hopes Riggy can get him into the second half at 0-0 and we'll start from there , with the bonus he gets ' man minutes' . Score the penna , it would have worked ( not slagging Enzo, just a fact )
 
Perryqhill said:
And me with yours.

Even the reasoning with Cirkin, suggesting his contract talks must have gone better - how?
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Not better per se, but less frustrating. Given his injury issues, it may have been both sides taking time to reflect on whether to commit.

Either way, it doesn't rely upon that; we needed a left back, Cirkin is of a standard where he makes a decent choice. There's value in playing him; I don't see where the value from playing Neil would have come from. Had Xhaka, Geer, Hume and Rigg all been out, sure.
 
Rocky77 said:
He also doesn't discuss players he clearly isn't happy with or in his plans
To suggest Neil is doing the bare minimum is based on absolutely nothing
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Well, he's clearly not doing enough if he can't get into the side thats been missing so many players with a heavy winter schedule.
 
If your looking for defensive minded right winger then would Hume not fit that role?
Good at going forward, likes a cross and can score goal?
 
I’m a big fan of Dan Neil. I think he’s a very good Championship player, though he can be prone to mistakes. I always thought he had a chance to be a decent Premier League player in a lower-half team—and he still does—but the league has moved on since we were last in it. It’s so fast now that his weaknesses, like getting caught on the ball, poor decision-making in the defensive third, and positioning when defending, would be more exposed unless he kicks on

That said, we were never going to have a squad full of Premier League-quality players. We’ve also given minutes to others who aren’t good enough yet—or may never be. It has been surprising how little he has featured
 
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