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ID checks for away tickets


humbug said:
if they've been going for years they wouldn't need to be in a 'pool' this pool suggests to me this 'pool' is made up of those who sacked it off when we were shit and have only recently conveniently rediscovered their passion for away games.
also, how does the person who runs the branch decide who gets the spare tickets? is it his mates, his relatives or someone who pipes them off? it's absolutely not up to anyone else other than the club who gets a ticket and the loyalty point system is named that for a reason.
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A pool to me would suggest about 40 people sharing 10 season tickets over the course of the season. And each person going to an average of 5 games. And the tickets just circulating around the same people. Obviously if they'd started year's ago they'd have built points up but that's not how life works
 
Fact Hunt said:
I would advocate having a lower loyalty point threshold for, say, under 25s.
To improve the atmosphere and to keep youngsters interested, we’ve got to try something like this.

Going to an away game these days quite often feels like a pensioners day out.
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Or bring back like it used to be, where groups can total their points and then average them out. Means children can start going with parents and also help branches so group applications?
 
Fact Hunt said:
I would advocate having a lower loyalty point threshold for, say, under 25s.
To improve the atmosphere and to keep youngsters interested, we’ve got to try something like this.

Going to an away game these days quite often feels like a pensioners day out.
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Tin hat on here but I agree. This season's away atmosphere for majority has being a bit disappointing imo. Chelsea was immense. Forest and Palace was canny. Liverpool was truly awful and I thought Brighton was pretty quiet for most of it. Fulham was awful aswel.
 
tunstallhill said:
A pool to me would suggest about 40 people sharing 10 season tickets over the course of the season. And each person going to an average of 5 games. And the tickets just circulating around the same people. Obviously if they'd started year's ago they'd have built points up but that's not how life works
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you do realise you can't 'share' a season ticket don't you?
a pool suggests to me people on points not enough to get a legitimate ticket who couldn't be arsed the last few years but suddenly rediscovered their love of the club when watson scored the winner at wembley.
edit, do you honestly believe there will be 40 people sharing 10 season tickets or are you just being stupid?
 
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humbug said:
you do realise you can't 'share' a season ticket don't you?
a pool suggests to me people on points not enough to get a legitimate ticket who couldn't be arsed the last few years but suddenly rediscovered their love of the club when watson scored the winner at wembley.
edit, do you honestly believe there will be 40 people sharing 10 season tickets or are you just being stupid?
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I mean sharing it for away games only

We've got mates who have STs with 10,20 points on , but the odd time one of the phase one lads isn't going, they'll use there's to guarantee a ticket.

I think your getting the wrong end of the stick of what I'm trying to say.
 
tunstallhill said:
I mean sharing it for away games only

We've got mates who have STs with 10,20 points on , but the odd time one of the phase one lads isn't going, they'll use there's to guarantee a ticket.

I think your getting the wrong end of the stick of what I'm trying to say.
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your mates are absolute bellends then who are conspiring to cheat people with more points out of tickets. that is of course if any of that is true.
sounds to me like you're quite ok with this.
 
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humbug said:
your mates are absolute bellends then who are conspiring to cheat people with more points out of tickets. that is of course if any of that is true.
sounds to me like you're quite ok with this.
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In theory I agree with you, but do you tell your mates no when they ask, to maintain the integrity of the loyalty points?
 
Chop Sauce said:
You think this is a new phenomenon? Where have you been dafty?
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no, i'm not saying it's a new thing. i'm simply saying it's wrong. if you don't mind wrong doing then crack on.
scott934 said:
In theory I agree with you, but do you tell your mates no when they ask, to maintain the integrity of the loyalty points?
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yes. it's called being fair and doing the right thing and perhaps if everybody did it this thread wouldn't exist.
 
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scott934 said:
In theory I agree with you, but do you tell your mates no when they ask, to maintain the integrity of the loyalty points?
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For me I don't really think anyone can really blame people for doing it. I know my stepson and a few of his mates got a lot of points and they didn't get there by attending every game. They've got a big circle of friends so there might be 5 with high points, and if any of those 5 can't go they'll always give it to a mate so there's still a group of them going. It's not right, but I can see why people with high points will be happy to pass the ticket to a mate.

But that being the case, given it's probably fairly common, I also can't blame the club for looking to crack down on it now that lots of people who have legitimately attended a lot of games are missing out
 
I don’t really think there is a need for checks on tickets to be honest, but if the club insist on people being personally responsible for their own tickets, I fail to see why branches should be exempt from that.
 
humbug said:
no, i'm not saying it's a new thing. i'm simply saying it's wrong. if you don't mind wrong doing then crack on.

yes. it's called being fair and doing the right thing and perhaps if everybody did it this thread wouldn't exist.
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I used to share a ST many yrs ago
Work shifts and could only go to 1/2 the games.
There were loads that did this.
Id like to share one now as can't make lots of games
 
I don't think we will ever get a system that is completely fair in everyones eyes. As a person who regularly uses a branch I can swear on my kids it's the same people who use it week in week out.

It has to be re iterated that we never had people twisting in league 1 and the championship. Whilst our away attendances were excellent, there were plenty of games that went to general sale so plenty of chance to build up points.

I can absolutely guarantee some of the people twisting were not standing next to me at Plymouth last season, or in the rain at Accrington for example.
 
humbug said:
no, i'm not saying it's a new thing. i'm simply saying it's wrong. if you don't mind wrong doing then crack on.

yes. it's called being fair and doing the right thing and perhaps if everybody did it this thread wouldn't exist.
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The reason this thread exists though has little to do with x passing on their season card.

The driver behind this is the fact the PL are pissed about third parties.
scott934 said:
I'd be wary that's a total scam tbh and no such ticket exists.
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The ticket won’t have existed at the time mate - hence the high price. A lot of third parties will charge high prices because it gives them a load of room to source a ticket.

At £272 they will hope to be able to get one on the day for say £100-£150. That still makes them a minimum of £120 profit on a £30 ticket.
Guinness Guzzler said:
For me I don't really think anyone can really blame people for doing it. I know my stepson and a few of his mates got a lot of points and they didn't get there by attending every game. They've got a big circle of friends so there might be 5 with high points, and if any of those 5 can't go they'll always give it to a mate so there's still a group of them going. It's not right, but I can see why people with high points will be happy to pass the ticket to a mate.

But that being the case, given it's probably fairly common, I also can't blame the club for looking to crack down on it now that lots of people who have legitimately attended a lot of games are missing out
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You will know better than me mate but from my understanding it’s the selling of tickets on Facebook that is pissing off the club and it’s been an issue for perhaps 18mths.

To also stop third parties, the PL are pushing for random checks as well.
 
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Fact Hunt said:
I would advocate having a lower loyalty point threshold for, say, under 25s.
To improve the atmosphere and to keep youngsters interested, we’ve got to try something like this.

Going to an away game these days quite often feels like a pensioners day out.
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At least we have a 3 year (?) cut off for points. I read that the mags points are indefinite so some have built up massive totals so are now just old and miserable as opposed to young and boisterous. Think we saw that first hand in the derby.

I’ve always thought loyalty points should be on a sliding recognition scale. If they made a league away game 3 points, home game 1 point and cup games 2 points, it would reward ST holders loyalty and they’d start the next season with 19 points even if they didn’t go away. Obviously this would push all the thresholds up. By the third season they’d have 57 points - I’d say someone who has 3 years of continuous ST deserves some sort of loyalty recognition rather than being stuck on 0 just because they don’t regularly go away. Doesn’t solve the problem of sharing numbers but I’ve always thought the 1 point per away game system was too simplistic.
 
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